Free POB!

Not sure how many players below POB would have faired better from that draft. But it's a moot point now.

And of course this soap opera scene is the truth because like you said, it's personal between Nellie and POB.  So how do you know it's personal?  Are you friends with POB and Nellie?  Do you kick it with them after practice and they told you they have beef?

Yes, Barnes has sucked it up this year.  But the guy still gets time on the floor in close games too.  Why?  Not because he is a dependable 3 point shooter and can make a wide open layup, because he can't.  But because, he has worked his tail off to get to where he is, and probably still does day in and day out in practice.  While he hasn't exactly torn it up lately, you can't question the work ethic.

But with POB, I can question that.  Being the good player who was occasionally dominant on defense and rebounding, that you say he is, shouldn't it be easy for him to own it up in practice against small forwards trying to play center?  Shouldn't he be toying with C-Webb and making him look like he was 60?  If he destroys his teammates during practice and plays hard, you don't think Nellie could spot him a few minutes?

Fact is, he's not.  Goose is out for 2 weeks and the dude still is in a suit.  I'm telling you, Harrington, Cro and even C-Webb makes him look bad, otherwise he'd play.  And if you can't blame it on his size or skills, then you must put it on his effort.

Of course, I've never been to practice to see this, so this is just my opinion.  But then again, you haven't been either, so it's not like you can say that this isn't the case either.

He got dominated by Bynum. Pushed around inside by Ryan Hollins. Bogut in 6 minutes vs POB was on pace to have a 70+ point game & that was w/ Baron/Monta helping him a couple times resulting in a couple Bogut TOs... then Kosta comes in & basically shuts Bogut down...

He looked average in the d-league & horrible in summer league even though defenses were geared toward stopping Belinelli b/c of all the hype after the 1st game. Josh Powell, as bad as he is, was 3x the player POB was.

POB didn't dominate d-league. Did you watch the games or just look at the stats? Yeah, he put up some nice #'s on a bad team. He really didn't dominate d-league, but lets say he did. Even d-league all-stars like Elton Brown, Kevinn Pinkney, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Loren Woods, Randy Livingston, Morris Almond, Jelani McCoy, Lance Allred are fringe rotational players at most. Most don't even make it. Hell, even Nick Fazekas is almost putting up 20 & 10 in the d-league. http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/index.jsp?player=nick_fazekas

POB only looks good against the Clippers (once last yr & once this year), but they played zone that 1st game and the 2nd game, he did well offensively when he was guarded by Kaman, but on the flip side, he was pushed around on defense by Kaman resulting in him fouling out of that game.

He also looked good the 1st two preseason games, but last year Dajuan Wagner looked great until everyone else started to get in shape and get their timing back. Hell, Kelenna was doing great against Kobe at that point. Who thinks he'd be as effective now that the games count? He got progressively worse as guys started to fine tune their games and looked horrible against the only team playing hard - thoe European ones, i forget their names.

POB has a good touch & length, but he has typical big man hands, needs to gain weight, he's pretty slow laterally, he missed tons of defensive assignments in the preseason and he needs to scrap that semi sky hook which goes in less than 40% of the time.

Btw, you're making a hypocritical statement. yeah, no one knows truly whether he has no heart, it's conjecture. but then you go on to assume that it's a personal decision by nellie to not play him simply b/c you think he's good... like you said, "who are you to say that?" maybe nellie's right and POB is just too inconsistent to play.

If only Foyle had dipped his hands in hot wax like Monta does...

Okur used him down low in that 2nd Utah game & he's hardly a great post player, Bynum dunked on him like every single time, Bogut had a Wilt Chamberlain type pace while going against him, and Ryan Hollins pretty much knocked him all over the place.

The only Warrior center I've seen that hasn't been pushed around is Mbenga and Perovic. Mbenga's not here any more and Kosta's was only one game against an average, maybe slightly above avg, talent in Bogut.

Considering the fact that he can't shoot, rebound or defend, he is much worse than either of those guys.

On the Mavs he was playing young players the likes of Chris Anstey and Samaki Walker. Then Gary Trent and Sean Rooks.

He's played guys like Alton Lister, Jim Peterson, Calvin Booth, Mark Bryant, Raef Lafrentz, Shawn Bradley, & for that 2/3 of a season, even Erick Dampier got around 27 minutes a game under Nellie.

I think we can agree the majority of these guys stink (in fact prior to googling it, i didn't even know who 1/3 of these players were), and yet Nellie was willing to play all these big guys decent minutes.

POB has a nice repertoire when it comes to the list of things he can potentially do. But like Dunleavy, it doesn't matter if you can't do anything "great".