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Recap: Warriors 115, Sonics 117: COLLAPSE

Remember that loss to the Milwaukee Bucks just a week ago? Tonight was a rinse and repeat of that.

Final Box Score

The first two quarters the Warriors were building something beautiful...
After the first two quarters the Warriors were up BIG 72-56. It looked like it was going to be FAN-tastic win #1,201 for Nellie.

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It was looking simply marvelous!

The highlights:

  • The Warriors came out firing. They were literally hitting everything. It was like watching 5 Ray Allen's out there when the Dubs were shooting: 72.7% from downtown (8 for 11) and 93.3% from the free throw line (14 for 15).
  • On defense the 1-2-2 zone seemed to be working pretty well. Troy Murphy in particular looked solid. Keeping him down low with those zones masks his inability to move laterally.
  • Fan favorite Adonal Foyle got some playing time!

but then it all COLLAPSED!

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Uh-oh- NOT AGAIN!!

The lowlights:

  • I don't know what the fellas were sippin' at halftime, but they came out and were thoroughly dominated in the 3rd quarter, surrendering 31 points and only scoring 16.
  • MP2 and TMurph only managed 2 points each in the 2nd half after a nice 1st half.
  • Monta Ellis couldn't be heard. It was a pretty quiet night for him.
  • Andris Biedrins with 10, 5, and 5- that's 10 points, 5 rebounds, and 5 fouls. He looked like the Human Foul Machine of last season. Despite a few nice rolls/ cuts and finishes, it just wasn't his night.
  • Mike Dunleavy just didn't looked focused out there, especially on defense. His disappearing act included more fouls than rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks-- COMBINED.
  • Keith McLeod missed a free throw! No seriously, props to him for going to the line so many times tonight. I didn't realize that tonight's miss was his first of the season.
  • Defense! Last I checked Damien Wilkins, Luke Ridnour, and Earl Watson weren't a three-headed 20 point scoring trio.

 

The Sonics were SuperSonic
You really have to hand it to this squad. It looked like they were going to get run off their own floor by halftime, but they hung in there and pulled off a big win without Jesus Shuttleworth. Denzel would've been proud of Ray's teammates. Props to Rashard Lewis (25 points, 8 boards, 4 assists, and 4 thefts), Luke Ridnour (26 points with 13 in the 4th and 9 dimes), Earl Watson (20 points, 5 assists, and one nasty fall), and D. Wilkins (22 points and 9 boards)- that's Damien, not Dominique (although the Warriors made him look THAT good tonight). They Got Game.

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Denzel: "Sit this one out Ray. Your boys got you covered."

Also, props to the Sonics' great fans. KeyArena was loud and bumping all night long. If they do in fact move this proud franchise, the entire league should be ashamed. Our friends in Seattle deserve an NBA squad, like Warriors Nation deserves some serious playoff action.

10-11
Yup, for those of you paying attending to the Western Conference standings, both the Seattle Sonics and Golden State Warriors have recorded 10 wins and 11 losses. That's absolutely embarrassing for the Warriors. The Sonics are a squad most of us would have slotted with the 2nd worst record in the West at the beginning of this season. But the records indicate that these two squads are equally good or equally bad- however you want to look at it.

Seriously, can you believe that through 21 games the Warriors and Sonics have identical records? I know I can't.

 

Warrior Wonder
Boom Dizzle came to play tonight and his near triple double (that's back to back nights where he missed the Oscar Robertson by only 1 board) were brilliant. BD was knocking down jumpers, taking it strong to the hole, crashing the boards, and creating for others: 28 points (10-19 FG, 2-3 3pt, and 6-7 FT), 13 assists : 1 turnover, and 9 rebounds. It was a fabulous effort wasted by another team collapse.

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BD gets bonus points for showing off his volleyball skills!

(AP Photo/Jim Bryant)

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sigh......
I miss JRich

by BDavis @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 10, 2006 10:49 PM PST reply actions  

Shocking
My mouth has been open for some time now, I just don't no how to react to another painful, painful loss.

by SkipT on Dec 10, 2006 10:56 PM PST reply actions  

Well that certainly sucked.
 I think I like last years warriors better, at least they didn't offer such high expectations.
    Guess this is our just pennance for the talk about trading Jason?
     Does anyone think Iverson would even want to come here? Games like this would have him demanding to be traded again.
       What happens in these games? Does the other team toy with us for 3 quarters then start to play? or do we somehow suddenly go braindead and forget how we built a lead ?? or are we actually trying to win the Oden lottery( although I'm not sure we need a pot of japanese stew)???

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 10, 2006 11:00 PM PST reply actions  

JRich
Where are you? This team is going nowhere if we dont have the most electrifying backcourt in the nba.  Get those knees healthy, please?

by FoyledAgain on Dec 10, 2006 11:28 PM PST reply actions  

Uh-Oh
Sounds like there could be some drama brewing in Warrior Land:
ONE THAT GOT AWAY: Davis unhappy spectator after 16-point lead vanishes
Baron Davis watched the final plays of Golden State's 117-115 loss to the Sonics on Sunday night leaning against the retaining wall along the baseline, having stayed on the outskirts of a team huddle during a previous timeout.

His unhappiness was obvious. The Warriors had blown a 16-point lead in the second half, and on one of the last plays in which he participated, guard Anthony Roberson pulled up for an ill-advised jumper in transition with the Warriors down by five and 31.9 seconds to go.

by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 10, 2006 11:56 PM PST reply actions  

Great
We can only hope this will be motivation, not something that disrupts team chemistry.

by SkipT on Dec 11, 2006 3:29 AM PST up reply actions  

baron's attitude
worried about a mutiny again? hopefully he's just pissed and will get over it. though the article says he stripped his gear right after being pulled and left the locker room as Nelson wrapped up the media.

lets hope baron keeps his head cool.

Go Tigers! Back to back to back Big West champions! ...and Warriors

by pacifictigerpepband on Dec 11, 2006 3:53 AM PST up reply actions  

This sums it up
Warriors squander big lead to Sonics
A team spokesman who talked with Davis said that the Warriors co-captain ``loves the coach but hates how we're playing right now.''

So do I BD. So do I.

by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 10, 2006 11:59 PM PST reply actions  

lol.
The Warriors are playing sorry. You can't come out hot like that, and just blow the lead to a even worse bruised and battered Sonics. There's one person who's the catalyst in their suckage. We gotta find that person and trade him for Iverson. lol.

The difference between this year and last year is that they can't blame the coach. Atma, I'm gonna have to disagree with the "drama" comment. I think that we may have high expectations, but Baron's may have been even higher. I think that with a healthy J-Rich (He should have sat out a couple extra weeks to begin with. It's never smart to come out at 75%, unless you're in a playoff chase) They don't squander games away. The only real person I consider a vet out there is Baron. So when the pressure gets to him, I think it gets to them all. J-Rich will provide a helping hand in just calming everyone down.

They just need to focus. They lose focus. Tonight they blew a 16 point lead in 4 minutes. That's just plain not paying attention. They pissed away the lead, and in turn it pissed them all off.

Now I'm just repeating myself. There's my two cents though.


If you take a look out of your windows, you can now see Dallas, TX. Quite the site, no?

by coma @ Golden State Of Mind on Dec 11, 2006 12:05 AM PST reply actions  

Baron & Nelson
Player frustration over that loss is understandable, and so was Nelson's answer for why he took BD out - game was over. Very prudent, no need getting your best player hurt in the last seconds of an unwinable game.

I'm going to return to a theme predicted here last summer - due to the make up of this roster, Nelson has had to play zone nearly the whole time. Now we're seeing teams making half time adjustments and penetrating against Dubz defense with greater ease in the second halves. Professional players and coaches are smart enough to make those adjustments. Does Nelson have another counter?
It's nearly impossible to be a running team after the opponent scores, so defense is affecting offense (as well as visa versa). We have a hard time getting out on the break when the other team is carving up our defense and scoring ...

Beyond that, Mullin is the one who brought this group together and he and Nelson need to make some roster changes to strengthen this team. Trade for AI or not, there are gaping wholes along the front line, and JRich's return will only cover up some of that when he returns ...

by hardcore on Dec 11, 2006 8:36 AM PST reply actions  

Good point
Nelson DOES have to do more switching with his zone, but in the second half last night he simply wasn't using his best 1-2-2 zone: it's been most effective with Dunleavy at the point, and Dun hardly played in the second half.  (Don't understand why he played less than 10 minutes, because even if he's off, as he was last night, his zone D and passing are good enough to keep him on the floor; as the Sonics quickly destoyed the W's 16 point lead to start the second half -- and we kept throwing up long distance misses -- I kept wondering why Nellie didn't throw Dun out at the top of the zone.  Oh well.)

But nothing seemed to be working in the second half -- when the guys just ran out of gas (strange, for a "running" team).  A good example of how statistics can be misleading: BD has the same line as the night before, but on Saturday he really played in the second half; last night he was just another diasappearing act (tho at least he scrambled from time to time) and once again Little Luke ate his lunch (now THERE's a guy who played a good fourth quarter).

Maybe it's because of the injuries, but my biggest problem thus far is I'd like to see these guys in better shape -- with their many weaknesses, they need to be able to outrun other teams, and the Sonics took it to them last night.

by johnl on Dec 11, 2006 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Luke vs BD
once again Little Luke ate his lunch (now THERE's a guy who played a good fourth quarter)

I actually don't remember those two matched up that much last night. Did you see them guarding each other a lot?

All I remember was Luke getting those wide open looks and knocking down those treys to beat the shot clock.

Also, I don't think Dunleavy played much last night because he had two unforced turnovers off some lazy passes and some pretty porous defense. Barnes was having the better night, so I think Nellie opted to go with him over Dunleavy.

by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 11, 2006 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Reply Points
Good points; here's my take, though:

*I didn't notice anyone guarding Ridnour in the second half; he seemed to be able to float free at will.  I'm assuming BD should have been on him -- and it's clear Luke gets BD's goat (remember BD's cheap shot at him last MLK Day preceded Ridnour's being selected over Davis to try out for Team USA).  Maybe Monta was equally to blame.

*As to Dun, I agree he had a poor first half -- but, fortunately, it didn't matter because the rest of the guys -- and BD, in particular -- were playing very well.  But things started going in the dumper immediately as the second half began, and the W's lost virtually all of their 16 point lead in the the first four minutes.  Why?  Two reasons: they stoppped moving and settled for bad, long-range jumpers that didn't fall (I think they missed 10 of their first 11 shots); second, their "point" on the zone wasn't using his arms to prevent passes in to the low post, where Murph and whoever were just getting easten alive.

*Dun, even on a bad night, plays really effective D at the point of the 1-2-2; his arms are always up and he deters or deflects a lot of passes into the post.  Why Nellie didn't put him in simply to slow down the Sonics is beyond me, because once they got it back to even, I think we all knew the W's were done.

*Barnes, to his credit, scored some in the fourth quarter when all others seemed stymied, but his overall shooting -- and shot selection in the killer third quarter -- was weak (6-16, I think), and his defense was really poor (at times it seemed as if he was playing without any arms at all).  Guess he was tired.

Anyway, I'm still looking to see if this team can play some good ball consistently at crunch time; good players play when it counts.

by johnl on Dec 11, 2006 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Dun
I think his leg is bothering him a little bit. For 2-3 games now he sit on the bench with either ice or heat on it. Fitz said something,but didn't say much beside he had a heating pad on his leg. Also did any one noticed with Monta fouled Luke with 24.3 seconds left,they let the clock run down to 21.9. I thought the league cracked down on hoome teams shave seconds off the clock.

by Psion on Dec 11, 2006 10:38 AM PST reply actions  

Baron?
"But he took just four shots in the final period and none in the last six minutes and was seen with glaring eyes toward the end of the game".

    I didn't realize Baron took so few shots at the end. Why? Was it a matter of the defense doubling him or was it by design? The other players certainly didn't come thru so maybe Baron should just go to the rim all the time? What happened to the Dunleavy to Baron post up play?

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 11, 2006 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

I'm wondering
why we always play our CRAPPIEST players at the end of the game. Yes, we collapsed, but we are having Roberson and Barnes out there? The two guys who barely beat out Chris Taft for the roster? Ellis has also shown that he cannot perform at the end of games.

I don't care if we put out ZARKO, just don't put in these crappy crunchtime performers out there!

Keep Roberson Barnes Ellis OFF the floor at the end of the 4th!

by Zorgon on Dec 11, 2006 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

Also
Sorry I forgot-freaking MCLEOD! This guy was a freaking SALARY DUMP player. He should NOT be playing over 10 minutes, and should NOT be in at the end of the game!

by Zorgon on Dec 11, 2006 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Does Our Coaching Staff Ever Read the Stats?
I think the biggest problem with the team right now is MP. He just seems to make everything go haywire when he steps on the court. If you think back, all of the GSW excellent team play vanished when he returned. He just doesn't seem to be able to play a fast-paced team game.

I think some coach is so sold on him "developing" that he is campaigning for MP to play major minutes. Here are the problems:

He doesn't move at all without the ball. Watch him in a half-court set. He just camps out in one corner or another and waits for a pass. So on offense, we're virtually 4 against 5. (Even BD has to wave him out of the corner at times.) Because of this mindset, MP has shot more threes than anyone else on the team! The coaches act like he's some kind of a 3PT ace or something. Earth to Coaching Staff: MP is only shooting 37%!

(To give you some perspective, Luke Walton's at 56%, and there's six more players over 50%. And a whole bunch in the 40% range. Those are 3PT aces. Nash shoots 50%. Hey, even Matt Barnes shoots 47% and Troy Murphey shoots 46%!)

Next, when he does attempt to penetrate, he's like a bull in a China shop. No agility or ability to alter his path. That's why he looks so awkward.

Penetrate and dish? He never dishes off. Last night he played 32 minutes and didn't have one single assist! And this is from a guard?

As a matter of fact, MP has less assists than every player on the team except Roberson (big surprise), Ike (injured), POB and Adonyl, none of whom get anywhere near MP's minutes. For all the minutes he plays, that's a big problem. Even Matt Barnes, for the few minutes he usually plays, has almost twice as many assists as MP. Even Keith McCleod has significantly more with a lot less minutes. As much as people talk about Dun, MP is playing more minutes than Dun, and yet Dun has over three times as many assists as MP!

Even not counting assists, he is not a proficient passer. He has trouble simply executing a fast break and even Adonyl gives him a run for the money with handling passes. As a matter of fact, with Adonyl's improvement this season, I'd say MP has the most trouble hanging onto passes of anybody on the team.

MP has more fouls/game than every Warrior except one...Guess who? Andris. We all know Andris fouls a lot, but MP? Nobody seems to mention that stat.

Finally, his FT. MP shoots 62% from the line.

So why is he getting major minutes? This is a shooting guard. Don't the coaches even watch the film or look at the stats? I almost cringe when I see him on the court.

I know the talk about him being a defensive stopper, but I just don't get it. Who has he stopped this season? Everybody's having career nights against us, just like last year. I think the hype that MP is a solid defensive player is one of the biggest myths about the Warriors right now.

Sure, he does some things OK. He seems like a really nice fellow and he is, of course, a twenty-something multimillionaire, so I don't think he will worry too much about my post.

I think he can help the team as a deep bench player with a strictly defined role. But all those minutes?

I feel that as long as the coaches continue to play MP major minutes, we're going to lose a lot more games than we win.

by pineriver on Dec 11, 2006 6:35 PM PST reply actions  

this sums up
exactly how i feel about mp. everyone is so adament on trading dunleavy, but i would much rather get rid of mp.

by AJC3317 on Dec 11, 2006 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

arrgh
this proved to me that these warriors will not be making the playoffs this year. Good teams make adjustments and edge out inferior teams. They took Waaaaaaaay too many jump shots in that third quarter instead of taking it to the rim. You can see that with the freethrow disparity between Seattle and GS. Also there was very little perimeter D, there is no way a guy like earl watson and damien wilkins should be killing you with the long ball. And finally, the season long bugaboo: defensive rebounding was the killer. Murphy, as much as his numbers back him up, never blocks out. the guards just look at the ball instead of looking for a man to bump. Its basketball 101 people. Maybe Nellie should have another mini-camp for fundamentals. A disappointing game from a jekyl and hyde team. I hope for better results with a healthy Richardson and Diogu if/when they return to the hardwood. In the meantime, Go spurs!

by kenntoe on Dec 11, 2006 7:52 PM PST reply actions  

Rebounding?
"And finally, the season long bugaboo: defensive rebounding was the killer"
   Is the bad rebounding due to the small ball  crap? They're probably so anxious to run that they forget that you need the ball first? Boxouts are just as important as fastbreaks.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 11, 2006 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Following up
Warriors can't escape the habit of close defeats
DAVIS PLACES ONUS ON VETERANS AFTER LATEST LOSS
Davis, who watched the end of Sunday's game with obvious disgust, absolved some of the Warriors' younger and less experienced hands, laying Golden State's inability to close out games on the guys who have been around for a few seasons.

``We're asking a lot of Monta (Ellis), Andris Biedrins and even Matt Barnes,'' Davis said. ``That's unfair to those guys, and us veteran guys, we need to step up. We've got to push ourselves past the level that we've been playing at in order to be successful.''

It's hard, though, for Golden State's veterans to have a large effect when their roles are shrinking by the day. Adonal Foyle has been a non-factor under new coach Don Nelson. Mike Dunleavy, having been bounced around the lineup and into a reserve role, played only 9:45 on Sunday and was yanked early in the fourth quarter after tossing a pass into the hands of Seattle forward Rashard Lewis.

Good to see this too...

Davis said that he had ``no problem'' with Nelson's decision to pull him from Sunday's game with 17.7 seconds remaining and emphasized that there was no rift between the two. ``Ain't no fish in that sea,'' Davis said.

by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 11, 2006 11:37 PM PST reply actions  

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