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Patrick O'Bryant aka The Notorious P.O.B. Will Be Jammin' in the D-League

The Notorious P.O.B. rookie Patrick O'Bryant is being sent down to the D-League to man the middle for the Bakersfield Jam.

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The Bakersfield Jam retro jerseys are HOT!

It might seem like POB is a bust with this demotion, but let's not pin this one on him or call him a bust yet. He's a young prospect, not an NBA ready player. Everyone including him was pretty up front with that at the draft; hence the nickname Project O'Bryant. Nellie brought up the D-League option for POB earlier this season, so it's not that big of surprise that he's finally being sent down.

While POB shouldn't be criticized for the demotion, the Warriors front office should be heavily. How many lottery picks can you name that have been sent down to the D-League? NBA teams generally keep raw players that they've drafted in the 1st round on their roster, so that they can work with their own coaching staff and get exposed to the NBA life. If POB's being sent down, he must be rawer than sushi.

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Here's just some of the excellent coaching you can only find in the D-League!
(Photo by Jennifer Pottheiser/NBAE via Getty Images)

It was a mistake taking him with the #9 overall pick especially with so many young players already on board this Warriors' roster. Does this squad really need another project especially when they're supposed to be ending this 12 year playoff drought before this decade is up? Simply put, this ain't a farm system. This is an NBA team that needs to win now. The Warriors passed up guys like Rodney Carney (he lit up the Dubs earlier this week for 25 points, 8 boards, and 2 steals), Quincy Douby (he lit up the Dubs for 21 points, 5 boards, 3 steals, and a block last night), Ronnie Brewer (a good backup swingman), Renaldo Balkman (the Warriors could use the D and hustle), Jordan Farmar (he would have been a solid backup for Baron Davis for the next few years), Mardy Collins (the Nuggets do give the Warriors trouble), and even OKC Hornets' young big men Hilton Armstrong and Cedric Simmons (at least they're ready to contribute on this level) who could've strengthened this team THIS year. You have to wonder if the Warriors would have drafted differently if hoops guru Don Nelson was the head coach back in June.

Do you think the Warriors messed up taking Patrick O'Bryant with the #9 pick in the 2006 NBA Draft?


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P. O'Bryant is SOFT!
Hate to say it but the guy is SOFT!!! They say the NBA is a numbers game but really its not. The NBA is where the big boys play and guys like P. O'bryant and M. Dunleavy are going to be known only as good players in the Collegiate level. P. Obryant reminds me of our other former draft pick, Tim Young out of Stanford. They provided legitimate numbers in College but lacked the attitude and aggression needed in the NBA. We need to start drafting some real ugly players who could care less of how they look and get the job done i.e. Tyrone Hill.  

by ON THE RUN on Dec 31, 2006 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

bad decision
why did we send him down anyway, we just j rich so we have plenty of roster spots

i agree that he was a very bad choice at number 9, i liked ronnie brewer alot and i also like carney, they may be a tad raw, but they are incredibly athletic that would be perfect for nellie ball

if a 7 footer has good upside, he will be a top 3 pick, because they are so rare,

there are alot of 7 footers who go later than the top 3 and they dont pan out, its like a 50 50 chance of them being solid at best

desanga diop is the only one who seems to work out  and was picked late

hilton armstrong is a good tough defender too

besides we are stacked with big men

Biendrins, Murphy, Ike, Adonal, Dunleavy can play the 4, Same with Barnes

it was a bad choice,

and marcus williams and rajon rondo would be better than farmar

by badnamedwarriorfan on Dec 31, 2006 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

Good points
you were right on the money with the drafting being the front offices problem. But we'll see how O'Bryant develops.  

Btw, not to be a downer, but using the NBA cares picture right there was kinda wrong lol.  

by gsdubz on Dec 31, 2006 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

Rodney Carney...
I always thought that he would be the W's pick but once again they messed up. Who is our scouting director? They should fire him because I don't know what caused his eyes to get locked onto thinking O'Bryant was fit for this team? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he hasn't been given any time to actually prove himself. Biedrins was sort of the same way but look what playing time did for Biedrins. The Front Office is definately the one to blame for this one.

by ON THE RUN on Dec 31, 2006 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

D-League
If I'm not mistaken POB still takes up a roster spot. This is why more teams don't send a player or two down to the D-League even tho they have two in-active spots. Sending POB down is what the NBA wants teams to do,this way the get some playing time instead of splinters. I don't agree with drafting him,but I was with Nellie in thinking once Beans showed how he was going to play this year POB should have bean sent down. The Jam is our D-League team so I belive the Warriors have a little say in who's on the coaching staff.

by Psion on Dec 31, 2006 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

Mullin is the mistake

The mistake was not taking POB, the mistake is Chris Mullin as VP. He is in over his head and after three years still doesn't know what he is doing. I wish I could be handed a VP position, with no direct experience for it, get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, and be given the opportunity to learn on the job, FOR YEARS!.

Yeah, in retrospect, taking Ronnie Brewer may have been the way to go, but POB was a fine, if not logical choice. The mistake was hiring Don Nelson after drafting two seven footers -- again, see Chris Mullin.

The mistake in the draft was not taking Leon Powe. He would fit wonderfully into Nelson's system, but of course, Nelson wasn't the coach during the draft, so . . .

The mistake has been Nellie putting POB in the doghouse and not letting him play. Mike Montgomery did the same with Monty and Biedrins, and look what a little PT has done for these guys. POB ain't gonna learn anything sitting on the bench. Get him in the game, especially when the Warriors desperately need size.

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by TruthMaker on Dec 31, 2006 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

Not a mistake
I'm a baseball fan #1 and Basketball #2.  I'm used to a minor league being used often.  I think that's the future of basketball.  People just need to change their mindset.

Let the guy play.  Let him play somewhere.  He needs the work.  This is a fine way to go.

He will be a good player in 3 years and well worth the #9 pick, just like Beidrins.

Now they need to get that 7'2" guy to develope and there will be a lot of tall skinny centers on the Warriors roster.

But at that point you can draft decent SG's with the 18th pick and stuff.  The Warriors will have a big front line by then.  Though, I think they need a big Power Forward who's an inside presence.  

POB just needs to show what he can do, if he can do anything.  Maybe this will make him mad and he'll show something.  At least they made a decision rather than waiting much longer.

by Gain on 10 on Dec 31, 2006 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know
  if it was a mistake drafting him because he's not played enough to find out!  The sure mistake is not getting these backup guys into the games more so they can learn or at least be evaluated, we've had plenty of blow out where POB could have gotten minutes but the coaches failed to put hin in.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 31, 2006 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

Crapshoot
Would anyone have guessed Beedy would have progressed this way? Can POB?? How many Rd#1 picks get sent to DLeague? how many come back? Don't you think Nelson would play POB if he thought he could help us? Last time this was discussed, even POB said it was motivation for him to push harder - clearly the Dubz are hoping that works ...

Meanwhile, we are hardly stacked at the 4! Biedrins is our center (5), Murphy is the only GSW rumored to be traded every two weeks (yet is hardly a favorite on GSoM), Ike is only barely poking out of Nellie's doghouse (and despite all the love for him on GSoM, he is unproven at best), Adonal is only barely seeing garbage time as Beedy's back up, and while Dunleavy can play the 4 neither he nor Barnes is the PF "answer" as both are better suited as backup SFs. The only "answer" they would be good for are to trivia questions.

Carney? He's limited to driving to his right, and by now the league is on to him so he needs to adjust his game. Besides, he's no answer to our weak front line.

Powe? Popular local pick, but he's barely seeing any time on one of the worst front lines in the East.

Anyone watch Ohio St.? the answer is there but getting Oden to Oaktown is the trick ...

by hardcore on Dec 31, 2006 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

he's the next
adonal foyle / todd fuller

rodney carney who i said we should have drafted since day one is going to blow up (not to t-mac or kobe status) but is going to be a very nice player while POB is going to end up the chump that the warriors drafted again!!!

by travisl212 on Dec 31, 2006 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

lol, you haven't watched Oden have you?
have you? against who? Oden is the REAL DEAL

sigh - it's all academic anyway, we'll play just well enough to miss both the lottery and the playoffs ... again ...

by hardcore on Dec 31, 2006 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

no....
patrick obryant is the next adonal/toddfuller

oden is hella good!!! haha

by travisl212 on Dec 31, 2006 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Then we know
that he'll either be hella good (Adonal) or average 20 points over four games in Australia and get fired anyway (Fuller).

by Zorgon on Dec 31, 2006 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Hold on to the hope
POB could be decent... in 2-4 years.  Look at Andris, at the beginning of this season we railed on him as the 1 minute man, and believed he was yet another bust.  Thank god he proved us wrong.  Hopefully POB will get some coaching, and be able to put up number like Andris the Giant, eventually.

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by Poopoojoe on Dec 31, 2006 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

stupid draft pick
stupid pick by a stupid GM.  fire mullin already.  that faggot signed murphy,foyle,jrich,dunleavy,baron to big contracts.  now none of the teams want to trade with us cause of those bad contracts.

by chimp on Dec 31, 2006 7:58 PM PST reply actions  

murphy,foyle,jrich,dunleavy,baron?
  Chimp, you're getting the peels mixed up with the bananas. Jrich ,Baron=Good!  Dun, foyle=bad!! Murph??

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 1, 2007 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Foyle=good
   Sorry, I mean Foyle's CONTRACT is bad, Adonal himself is very good, we should make him into a pizza guy so he can come into the stands and bring us love.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 2, 2007 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes!
Gimme some Pizza Tonite, Foyle!

by Zorgon on Jan 2, 2007 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I support our Draft Pick!
I thought it was a good pick then, and I still think it's a good pick now. Did anyone expect this guy to just jump off and become great right away? Hella no! This guy needs time to develop, and he needs to go down to the D-League to get some time. He's played maybe 3 serious minutes this year, and I don't think we have seen him play at his best at all. Going down to the D-League to improve his skills is exactly what this guy needs, not to rot on the bench.

At least Nellie is taking the INITIATIVE to put this guy in the D-League, and developing him. Mike Montgomery would have left him on the bench. One this guy develops, 2 years maybe, he will put the SMACK DOWN on Greg Oden and Yi JianLian, and all of you will eat your words about drafting all of these role players/average players at best. Those guys are already developed, and frankly won't get much better and will be where they are now. O'Bryant is a little below them now, but will get much better than them as time rolls on.

I sure hope we don't trade him....

by Zorgon on Dec 31, 2006 9:33 PM PST reply actions  

The Bakersfield Jam
   Didn't know there was such a team. Makes bakerfield a little less gross. Who else is in the league? Do they play any games up this way? It would be fun to go support the notorious POB

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 1, 2007 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

some info on the D league
can be found here
http://www.nba.com/dleague/

Looks like Gerry McNamara of Syracuse championship team fame is on the Jam as well.


Let's Go Oakland! Gas, Brake, Dip.

by OaktownFunk on Jan 2, 2007 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

P.O.B.: Bad draft pick
First of all, we as fans should not expect a rookie to bust in the league and have an immediate impact unless you're Chris Paul, Lebron James, etc.  Having that said, we should expect to see flashes of brilliance from a rookie, and the fact of the matter is, O'Bryant did not show me anything.

I didn't see any glimpses of a post game (like we saw from Ike Diogu last year).  I didn't see a great mid-range game.  I didn't see any glimpses of an ability to drive to the hoop.  He doesn't possess a substantial amount of athletic ability.  I don't see what the Warriors saw in this kid.  

However, even if they felt that O'Bryant was their guy, the timing of hiring Coach Nelson was terrible.  The Warriors should have hired Don Nelson FIRST so he could give his input on the draft, which would have led to the organization drafting a "Nellie" type player (someone who can run, handle the ball, and shoot).

The fact of the matter is POB is not a Don Nelson prototypical player; therefore, you have a wasted draft pick.  This was a dubious move. It's moves like these that set the franchise back because NBA Draft picks have more of an impact on your team considering that there are only two rounds.

by friscoballer415 on Jan 1, 2007 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

Well, then
he must be a 3-Point-Maniac!

by Zorgon on Jan 2, 2007 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Bad picks
I agree with firsco baller.  It's as if this pick was made for a Montgomery style of play and then they go ahead and hire Don Nelson.  Nice

Lack of a coherent plan in the front office.  Terrible contracts for Dunleavy, Murphy and Foyle.  

A small point but seriously who do you think would have a better chance of ever making a contribution on a Nelson team: a 7'2 stiff from Serbia or Leon Powe?  I see a team that could use some toughness inside from a guy like Powe

So you pick two guys who are 7 feet tall for a coach who notoriously doesn't develop or like to play true big men.  Weird

by Zig on Jan 1, 2007 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

there WAS a plan -
it was just WRONG!

Because Mullin expected he could move Murphy, and maybe even hoped to move Foyle, he drafted the best available bigs. Then the plan didn't work, & he tried to move Baron, but couldn't change the roster (except Fish) and so he had to change coaches or repeat last year's fiasco. I predicted then that unless Mullin is able to upgrade the roster by Feb, he'll be gone by June. And then, Nelson will be doing the drafting.

ps. Nelson developed Beidrins ok wouldn't we all agree?

by hardcore on Jan 1, 2007 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Beidrins
Beidrins has tons of talent and fits in nicely with this Nelson's style now but it remains to be seen if he will fully develop as a big man playing in an offense like this.  

by Zig on Jan 2, 2007 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

Center of attention
From The Bakersfield Californian:
http://www.bakersfield.com/136/story/92379.html
O'Bryant said Warriors coach Don Nelson first brought up the D-League option more than a month ago. The Jam is the affiliate of Golden State.

"'Do you feel it would better to stay up here and learn or go down to D-League and get some playing time and experience?' " O'Bryant said of Nelson's comments. "At first I thought it would help me more to be up there with the NBA guys, learning from them.

"But then after I realized I wasn't getting any playing time -- I went in a few times for the last couple of minutes of a game and didn't do as well as I thought (I'd do) -- I thought that maybe I should go to the D-League and just play minutes in a real game with real players instead of going 1-on-1 or 1-on-zero (in practice)."


by Atma Brother ONE on Jan 5, 2007 9:54 AM PST reply actions  

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