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The Don Nelson Show on KNBR 1/11/07

Every Thursday Warriors head coach Don Nelson has a show with The Razor & Mr. T on KNBR 680. The audio from last week's show is archived online. You DO NOT want to miss this week's show.

Here's some of what Don Nelson had to say the day after the loss to the Orlando Magic:

  • The young guys can not carry the load by themselves.
  • Baron tries to shoulder the scoring when the team is down, but they need him to create.
  • Nellie doesn't want to write Troy Murphy off yet because of his injuries, but Murph needs to step up.
  • Dunleavy is what he is. The fans weren't all wrong about him. He hasn't improved for Nellie or for the team since he's been on the Warriors.
  • Nellie thinks Pietrus can grow into a better player and gives him credit for his rebounding and defense.
  • He doesn't really pay too much attention to what people write about him or the team.
  • Foyle has to go after and block every shot, not just a few.
  • Nellie is mad at Ike Diogu right now and doesn't think he has natural basketball instincts.
  • This roster has below average hoops IQ. His smart players are the dumbest he's ever seen. Dunleavy is not smart consistently and he does dumb things.

Nellie sounds like an old, wise man bitter and frustrated with the work of his two pupils Chris Mullin and Rod Higgins. Seriously, those two have done an awful job constructing this roster during their front office tenure with the Dubs. I'm sure many of you could have done better. They've been that bad. Mullin and Higgins brought in Nellie to save them, but even this hall of fame coach can't magically turn a roster of sub-par talent and hoops IQ into more than a team flirting with .500.

What was the biggest take home point from Nellie's interview?

Thanks to loyal GSoM community member Warrior fan 23 for hyping up this interview yesterday in the diary The Don Nelson Show.


UPDATE: Check out GSoM friend Tim Kawakami's thoughts on this episode of The Don Nelson show on Talking Points.

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I like that he has no problem...
Telling the truth, and all, but god damn. Where's the line crossed when the team just shuts itself off due to NO self esteem.

If you take a look out of your windows, you can now see Dallas, TX. Quite the site, no?

by coma on Jan 12, 2007 3:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

IQ
Nellie's full answer to Tolbert's question about the Warriors basketball IQ:
We're below normal.  Even my smart players are the dumbest smart players I've ever seen.  Dunleavy's supposed to be a smart player and occasionally he is.  But, he's just not smart enough consistently enough.  He doesn't do the right thing all the time.  Then he'll do a really dumb thing.  That's frustrating.  If you're smart, you're supposed to be smart all the time, aren't you?  I mean you can't be smart half of the time and be a smart player.  So then what are you?  An average smart player?

Sounds pretty harsh, right?  But I think Nellie doesn't always mean 100% of what he says.  When he's in a good mood, he's over the top positive.  When the Warriors have a loss like Wednesday's game against Orlando, he's going to be overly negative.  I think he even realized a minute later in the interview that what he said sounded really bad because he added:

I'm the dumbest smart coach you've ever had.

My point is: don't take all of his harsh criticisms out of context.  Sometimes I think he says half of what he says just for the effect.  That said, the most positive thing I got out of the interview was that the team had a good hard practice yesterday, and they're all just as eager as Nellie is to erase the memory of Wednesday's game with a win tonight.  Just look how they responded in the 6 home games following the AWFUL season opener:

W vs Blazers, 102-89
W vs Hornets, 121-116
W vs Pistons, 111-79
W vs Raptors, 110-99
W vs Kings, 113-105
W vs Sonics, 107-95

I'll be there tonight yelling for the Dubs to play some D!  Let's go Warriors!

by EternalWarriorsOptimist on Jan 12, 2007 3:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dun
The thing that stood out the most for me was when he said the fans weren't wrong about Dunleavy.  That was pretty funny, partly because it's true and partly because you never hear a coach say anything like that.

Overall the interview was pretty harsh. Maybe Nellie just says some things for effect, but I don't know if calling your guys dumb is one of those things.  You can say like Diogu needs to pass out of the double team or Foyle needs to hustle on every play, because those are legit criticisms that those players can (theoretically) respond to right away if they just put forth some effort.  But, if you're dumb then you're just kind of dumb for life.  It's not something you can fix overnight.  If, in Nellie's eyes, you don't have a good basketball IQ by now, you probably aren't ever going to have one.

by Lamar Latrell on Jan 12, 2007 3:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

what' s really intersting
is that nellie said he came back because he "liked the team" at least that is what he said before the year started. my opinion at the time was that he liked Dun as a 'point forward' and he liked murph as an outside shooting center. Well, we all know how those two things turned out. Would it be safe to assume that he does not "like" the team after all and might he want to leave after the season? He is already pumping up Smart as his successor not even 1 full season into a 3 yr contract. Very interesting...and a bit scary.

Let's Go Oakland! Gas, Brake, Dip.

by OaktownFunk on Jan 12, 2007 4:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

haha
Baron tries to shoulder the scoring when the team is down, but they need him to create

Yes this is so true.
And yes we are the dumbest playing team in the NBA. I've been saying that for a while. How else can you explain the constant 3 point attempts brick after brick after brick...Go to the RIM! It is your friend!!

by kenntoe on Jan 12, 2007 5:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

the IQ part
i'm so glad he mentioned that. this team is so idiotic. i want to know what goes through baron's head when he decides to jack up a contested 3, when he can get to the rim anytime he wants and is a below average shooter. so dumb.

by AJC3317 on Jan 12, 2007 6:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

thanks
thanks for some credit Atma Brother One. I think it's good that somebody in the Warriors organization made some criticizes about the Warriors players, and its the Head Coach who made the remarks. We as Warrior fans get so frustrated of all the excuses like o there a young team. O yea we been a young team for a while now and i thought your suppose to grow as a team so get use to it. They said cause of the injuries. Well you got to live with it cause everybody gets injured in the NBA. It's not the fans fault we come out there to the arena ever night to cheer for them so the Warriors owe us in something in return.

by Warrior fan 23 on Jan 12, 2007 10:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Truth Hurts
I think that the most crucial point of criticism Don Nelson made of his team was the fact that the young guys can't carry the team by themselves.  I think from this statement, you can draw out some of the other things he said.  

One of the few bright spots for the Warriors this year has been the play of Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins.  Last year, both of them showed some flashes of what they could do.  We saw that Andris had a tremendous amount of length who could block some shots, and catch anything thrown his way.  We saw Monta's speed which he used to stay with guys on defense, and to get by guys on offense.  This year both of those guys stepped it up big time, and showed us more of what they could do.  

We have seen Andris use more of his length to block more shots, grab rebounds, and give some scoring inside.  We have seen Monta's explosiveness in getting to the rim and finishing.  However, with all of these positive signs, these two guys are still only 20 and 21 years of age.  They are still very raw and inconsistent, and to count on them along with the likes of Matt Barnes, Ike Diogu, Mickael Pietrus, and even Kelenna Azubuke will not bode well for the team.

The fact of the matter is the Warriors had a core group of Jason Richardson, Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, and Baron Davis, all of whom had a great amount of faith put in them as evident from Chris Mullin locking them up for the future.  Up to this point, the only player of this core group who has performed well is Baron Davis.  This group was expected to live up to their contracts and lead this team to a winnable record that would ultimately propel them into the playoffs.  You can almost give Jason Richardson a free pass for being injured, but even then, he decided to get knee surgery in August instead of June.  Had he elected to get the surgery earlier, he would have had more time to heal, get himself stronger, and work on his game going into the season.  It was poor judgment on his part to have the surgery so late.

But in my mind, Baron and Jason can get a pass because Baron has been playing out of his mind while Jason has been injured.  So that leaves Dunleavy and Murphy.  Both of these guys have zero quickness, zero jumping ability, zero athleticism, and zero toughness; thereby, making them both terrible defenders.  It's because of guys like them, that the Warriors have to play zone 60% of the time.  You expect your bigs to play defense and rebound the ball.  It is their JOB.  If they don't do these things, then they better have stellar offensive production.  As it stands right now, these are the numbers of Troy and Mike:

Troy Murphy: PPG 8.8 RPG 5.90 APG 2.4
Mike Dunleavy:  PPG 11.3 RPG 4.60 APG 3.0

Clearly, these numbers are far from stellar, and you need them to be productive on the offensive end to compenstate for their lack of defense and rebounding; yet they are not.  Do these numbers warrant Murphy getting about $8.3 million and Dunleavy getting about $7.3 million?  The answer is HELL NO!  By Mullin signing these guys to huge contracts, he made a huge statement by saying that he believed these were the guys to carry the team.  All of us know that this is the furthest thing from the truth.  Ellis and Biedrins have done more for the team than Murphy and Dunleavy.  

By saying that the young guys can't carry the team, Coach Nelson was speaking the truth.  But he was also pleading with Murphy and Dunleavy to step their games up.  Until they do, this team is going to continue to hover around mediocrity.  

by friscoballer415 on Jan 13, 2007 1:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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