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Patrick O'Bryant Will Be Jammin' in the D-League for the Rest of the Season

When the Warriors selected Patrick O'Bryant with the 9th overall pick in the 2007 NBA Draft they billed him as a project. POB even called himself a project. Well, this project isn't exactly earning an A grade from Professor Don Nelson this quarter (from Janny Hu for SFGate):

Nelson shut the door on recalling Patrick O'Bryant this season from the D-League, where the rookie center is averaging 6.1 points, 6.7 rebounds and 2.1 blocks in 23.4 minutes a night. He has fouled out of two of his seven games.

"I told him that if he goes down to the D-League and isn't a dominant player, there should be red flags all over the place and he should be the first to notice," Nelson said. "And he's not only not dominating, he's not even playing very well. So he's a long-term project."

That would be back to back lottery picks by the Mullin and Higgins-led Warrior front office that haven't had much of an impact on the court. Ike Diogu barely played under both Nellie and Monty and was shipped to Indiana. POB- well, he just hasn't played and it doesn't look like he'll be playing for Nellie in the near future.

Is POB a bust or is it still too early to tell?


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yeah.
Bust with a capitol UST.

If you take a look out of your windows, you can now see Dallas, TX. Quite the site, no?

by coma on Jan 26, 2007 10:36 AM PST   0 recs

I say bust in the sense
that we needed someone of impact NOW to help move towards playoff level. I'm afraid that if he comes back to the NBA somebody's gonna break him in half! He's so thin he has to move around in a shower to get wet.

by flaaron on Jan 26, 2007 10:36 AM PST   0 recs

Right
It might be a little early to tell if he's a real bust, but for the Warriors purposes he is.  It's frustrating that almost everyone that was picked before him has had some kind of impact on their team.  Morrison and Shelden Williams and are basically only playing because their teams suck, but at least they have done something.  Other 2006 lottery picks have shown something at times (Bargnani, Aldridge, Foye) or consistently (Roy) so it's pretty fair to call POB a bust compared with the other top 10.

The only good thing is that right to me there isn't one guy picked below him in the first round that we can say "man, if we only had him right now" about.

by Lamar Latrell on Jan 26, 2007 10:51 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I agree
I just looked at the draft and I don't see anyone the Warriors would have realsitically taken who is doing anything I am aware of

by Zig on Jan 26, 2007 2:25 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

The disaster that was POB.
I watched the draft at a sportsbar with some friends and we thought A) Mullin was going to draft POB and B) this was a mistake.   Drafting POB was a mistake on so many levels.  The Warriors appeared to need help inside, but it no POB.  It also appeared that Mullin couldn't scout his own players as he didn't seem to know what Biedrins could do and the assumption that POB could help more was not only unfounded, but obvious.  No one predicted POB would be an immediate contributor.  Everyone projected him as a "project."  As a result, as a "need" pick it was a pick that wouldn't alleviate the need and thus that rationale for the pick was lousy.

The lot of us were pulling for either Carney, Brewer or Marcus Williams. While none have turned into stars, all have shown that they belong in the NBA and all are contributing for their teams.

Missing on a better player usually happens.  But when it happens and it's clear that it's more or less destined to happen, it's a bad choice.  I hope he turns into at least a legitimate NBA player, but the chances of a big man taken at that point in the draft being more than a journey man is low and odds of 'bust' are high.  If the draft is one of your few chances to add talent, you should take talent.  Late lottery may only give you backups, but at least take someone who will be a backup then rather than taking a gigantic paperweight.  

by jae on Jan 27, 2007 3:43 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Patrick O Bryant
Won't get his minutes under Don Nelson. He just can't stay on the floor long enough. He has a nice jumpshot, so i've heard, for a big guy, but otherwise, he just can't do much for a Nelson team. He'd actually be pretty good on a half court team that needs a 3rd string center who can make an impact.
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by Crypt0naut on Jan 26, 2007 11:04 AM PST   0 recs

ya think?
Why isn't he dominating the D league then?

by Zig on Jan 26, 2007 2:25 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

last year's draft
was a complete waste...none of those guys will every do anything in the NBA..i hope POB is investing that contract money wisely now cuz the pay isn't that good in the euro-leagues
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by JudBooshlur on Jan 26, 2007 11:17 AM PST   0 recs

Bust?
He is where many experts expected him to be - nothing - this season, simply because he was too raw and still is.

We drafted him for his upsides that won't come until maybe 2008, so let's revisit this whole deal in a year or two.

Calling him a 'bust' now is simply ignorance of the fact that he isn't drafted as a 'need' for this year.

by MightyReds2020 on Jan 26, 2007 11:27 AM PST   0 recs

in the words of Nas
"it ain't hard to tell" that POB has MAJOR BUST potential.

by dj fuzzylogic on Jan 26, 2007 11:42 AM PST   0 recs

mightyreds
good post. i agree completely

by gsw4life on Jan 26, 2007 12:55 PM PST   0 recs

bust?
it's way too early to tell, but he can't really be a bust if the expectations for him weren't that high to begin with. I mean, was anyone in here expecting him to burst on the scene with 20/10 per night? No. I think any sort of contribution during the season would have been a bonus. He's way too raw and only played himself into the top 10 of the draft in the tournament. Had he had a bad tourney, he wouldn't have declared.

In the NBA, just because you're drafted in the top 10 doesn't even indicate that you'll ever make an impact in the league. There are just so many 1st round NBA busts, it's not even funny. If he turns out to be a starter in the league, then he'll have been a success.

As I said at the time, he was the best big man available at the 9th spot where the warriors picked and unforunately there were only 8 impact type players in the draft and they all went ahead of the W's. They did the best they could given their position, but no one can say they really had high hopes for an immediate impact or that would ever become an NBA star.

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by Kobe on Jan 26, 2007 1:18 PM PST   0 recs

Best Big Man wasn't much of a compliment
Mullin had tunnel vision for a bigman because he thought that was the area of need. While true, just because a guy has a "-C" after his name on the draft board doesn't mean that he's going to fill that need.  There wasn't a big man who could help and the need would still be there.  The tunnel vision seemed to blind him to this.  Meanwhile, some other areas of need (like someone to push Dun at the SF position, someone to backup Baron to cut down on his minutes) existed with realistic possibilities of actually filling the need.

That he looked past Biedrins when he made the pick makes it less of a problem this year, but more of a scouting gaff by Mully.

by jae on Jan 27, 2007 3:48 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

bust, for shizzle.
his upside is to become a slightly more mobile marc jackson with less of the attitude.  if we needed a soft jumpshooting tall guy with no post presence, we could have kept t-dub and his dd rebounds.

and to think of all the great nellie-ball athletes we overlooked to draft POB...

mully is schizophrenic.  how can he have the genius to draft monta...yet have convinced himself that chef patty was the next The Dream?  the kid played two moderately decent games in the tourney. can you imagine POB going 1-1 versus Greg Oden at Ohio STate?    

by krawdaddee on Jan 26, 2007 1:38 PM PST   0 recs

If you were the GM
What who would you have taken?  Take a look at that draft.  It was thin

by Zig on Jan 26, 2007 2:27 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

POB-UST
there's no doubt he's a huge bust.  if he were the first project we had goin then that'd be one thing, but with so many guys on the team already underperforming, even at the same position in some cases (yes adonal, i'm talking about you), then it might be a different story. but he's the latest in a series of failed/failing projects which might make him the biggest bust of all.  bottom line, id bet every single 1st round pick could get the numbers POB's gettin in the D-League in the NBA if they got the minutes, and that's just uncalled for.

by WAWAWAWorrier on Jan 26, 2007 1:57 PM PST   0 recs

POB = Todd Fuller.
It also proves my theory that if you are 7 feet tall and can walk, then you will drafted.
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by cobra kai on Jan 26, 2007 5:25 PM PST   0 recs

No bust...
He's no bust to me because I never expected anything  out of him. Dunleavy was a bust because I thought he would be good. I never thought anything positive of O'Bryant...

by bradyk2 on Jan 26, 2007 5:39 PM PST   0 recs

haha
even when the warriors suck, they don't suck enough to get the right players. every year in fact, it seems the warriors suck, but come july they don't suck enough to get that one guy who'll turn their luck around. Its Warriors Karma or something.

So far i think its too early to tell what POB will do in this league. Expectations were low to begin with, so i can't exactly say i'm disappointed. Well i am, but not moreso because of POB's ineffectiveness.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league. Purgatory is thy home.

by kenntoe on Jan 26, 2007 6:30 PM PST   0 recs

It wasn't a thin draft ..
There was bad scouting everywhere. Alexander Johnson, Craig Smith, and Paul Millsap were solid college players that should have been taken much earlier. Any of those players could have been the Warriors selection instead of POB.

The problem was that the Warriors didn't know or didn't have a plan in the offseason. Selecting POB well before bringing Nellie back obviously means that either Mullin didn't know he was going to make a coaching change or that he was going to be able to get Nellie to come back.

Selecting POB was a mistake in that he'll never be successful in the system the Warriors are running now. They're better off cutting their losses and trading him now rather than trying to fit that square peg into a round hole.

Had Mullin known what the summer plans were, he would have gotten a leaper like Simmons or a badass worker like Millsap. Johnson killed Shelden Williams in workouts and had a first round promise that fell through because of the business end of things. He would've been solid in this uptempo system, too.

It all boils down to the Warriors not having set plans in the summer and scrambling. The ship has been righted now - the team does have a vision - but POB needs to be dealt before his value plummets even more. Package him with Pietrus and let's make a deal.

by pree on Jan 27, 2007 4:15 AM PST   0 recs

hindsight is 20 20
every year there are going to be guys like that who can play a little.  By suggesting they should have been lottery picks is my point.  It was a thin draft.   Look at the next 10 guys taken after POD

by Zig on Jan 27, 2007 9:58 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I have a feeling
I have a feeling that the Warriors are going to regret passing up Rodney Carney. Now there's a guy that might've looked good in Nellie's system.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4144

by Atma Brother ONE on Jan 27, 2007 11:07 AM PST   0 recs

Come on
First of all, what people need to understand is that larger players take longer to develop. They are rarer to find, especially skilled. Remember Kwame Brown? Everyone said he was a bust in Washington until the lakers got him and worked him into shape.
So many people are quick to second guess and play GM on here. But give Mully some credit he made the best choice AT THE TIME. At the time of the draft, the mindset on the warriors was continue to develop young team to be a capable half court team (under monty) with the ability to transition, and continue to develop half court defense.
At the time of the draft. Bieds had been a BACKUP the previous- please read that again. The obvious immediate need was Center-especially with Foyle's declining production.
There were plenty of guard/sf types on the W's at the time:ellis, davis, richardson, pietrius, wagner, mccloud, roberson, dunleavy, and even barnes.
So For That Time it made the most sense.
What people are doing on here is looking at what all went down: Nellie coming in, system changing, warriors current needs, etc. and then looking back and trying to be the "GM". Get real. If you are that prophetic and know so much get your butt out and play some lotto. Maybe you'll have more to do than second guess others.

by 11allstar on Jan 28, 2007 10:34 AM PST   0 recs

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