OPEN THREAD: Preseason Game #6 - Warriors vs. Sonics

by Hash on Oct 23, 2007 2:44 PM PDT in Previews

Warriors (W-L): 3-2 (preseason)

Sonics (W-L): 1-4

Time: 7:00 PM PST (KNBR 1050)

Warriors. Meet Kevin Durant. Durant, meet the Golden State Warriors. Excellent. Now you boys play nicely!

Well after 2 preseason losses in a row to the Los Angeles Clippers and the San Antonio Snores, the Dubs are headed to Seattle to face the Kevin Durant. Apparently the rest of the Sonics are showing up as well but no one really cares.

Since the game is totally meaningless (getting sick of that yet?) and I wasted most of my creative juices today writing about getting whooped in Street Fighter II as a child, allow me to take some time to educate you all on some facts about the city of Seattle.

Fact #1: Seattle's official nickname is the "Emerald City," the result of a contest held in the early 1980s to designate a new nickname for the city. Shouldn't nicknames be earned? Holding a contest is like the kid in school who wanted to be cool so bad that he told people to call him "Slash". He usually ended up with any nickname but "Slash". And they weren't ones that he would have chosen.

Fact #2: Contrary to popular belief, the Space Needle is neither the tallest structure in Seattle nor is it in Downtown. This misconception results from the Space Needle often being photographed from Kerry Park on Queen Anne Hill, where it is closer to the viewer than are the downtown skyscrapers. (see photo below)

FOOLS! Unfamiliar with Forced Perspective!

Predictions:

* Warriors by 7.
* Durant demands a trade to the Warriors.
* Belinelli drains 4 or more from downtown.

UPDATE [Atma Brother #1]: Make sure to check out the game thread over at SonicsCentral.com for a little Seattle perspective.

UPDATE 2 [Atma Brother #1]: Live Box Score from NBA.com

UPDATE 3 [Atma Brother #1]: SuperSonics.com has a cool live blog of the game.

UPDATE 4 {Fantasy Junkie]: Warriors win 126-122

UPDATE 5 [Atma Brother #1]: Check out our newest member of the GSoM crew Adam Lauridsen's Game Recap.

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Man you really do learn something new on GSoM everyday. I've never been to Seattle, but with Hash's educational lesson I really don't feel the need anymore. Haha

And man what you talking about getting whipped in Street Fighter II as a child? If you were getting served, then damn I really was garbage at that game.

by Atma Brother ONE on Oct 23, 2007 2:50 PM PDT reply actions

I went to Seattle

for the first time about a month back. Honestly, I've got to say that I, personally, think it's 10 times better than SF. Less crowded, seemed easier to get around, finding parking (and more importantly paying for parking) was infinitely easier. I also went to a Mariners game which was an awesome experience...although I am an A's fan.

None of this, of course, means the Supersonics are good.

by kyoung05 on Oct 23, 2007 3:06 PM PDT reply actions

Hang out in Seattle

between October and May and get back to me. When the Sonics move to Oklahoma City it's going to be hell in the winter.

by San Francisco Slim on Oct 23, 2007 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions

But It's gonna be awesome here!!!!

Tony.psd = Da Man

http://adonalobsessed.blogspot.com/

by Zorgon on Oct 23, 2007 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Seattle

is a poser SF

by djchuckdeez on Oct 23, 2007 4:34 PM PDT reply actions

Seattle is Beautiful

A great looking city (I'm a SF native) in April - October. Can really be dreary in the winter time with the rain though (and cold.)

I have cousins up there that I've visited over the years and everytime I go I fall in love with the area; its so clean.

Nothing better than "The City".

by philsmith75 on Oct 23, 2007 5:10 PM PDT reply actions

Same here

There are so many more trees there, not just in Seattle but in Washington in general.

by Caught Backcourt on Oct 23, 2007 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions

I like sun

I've heard Seattle is amazing for about 6 weeks. Outside of that, don't expect to see anything above you other than gray clouds. Isn't the suicide rate in Seattle among the highest in the country?

by Fantasy Junkie on Oct 23, 2007 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

I lived in seattle...

It's nothing like the bay, I thought it was from visiting in past summers.

I originally was going to post a negative rant about this city, but instead the one positive going for it is the bumbershoot festival. The most fun music/comedy/film festival I have ever experienced, totally one of the kind.

by tajbled on Oct 23, 2007 6:40 PM PDT reply actions

For some reason

I really just love a cloudy, cold, windy day. Rain is cool with it to, but I don't mind if its there or not. Maybe its because I live in Oklahoma City and it's sunny all of the time. I don't know, but Seattle sounds like an awesome place "weather-wise" for me....

Tony.psd = Da Man

http://adonalobsessed.blogspot.com/

by Zorgon on Oct 23, 2007 7:21 PM PDT reply actions

Dubs Up 7

Sounds like monta all healed up.

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 7:26 PM PDT reply actions

Spent a couple days in Seattle

It felt like a smaller, fresher version of San Francisco with a lot less homelessness and a lot more cigarettes. Was talking recently to a Seattle native who just moved to Oakland, and she said that people in the Bay are a helluva lot nicer and more congenial than in Seattle.

Anyway, enough of this Seattle talk. Anybody listening to the game? Six boards for Beans in the first 6 minutes.

by ivanbe on Oct 23, 2007 7:26 PM PDT reply actions

Pietrus still a foul machine

3 fouls already.

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 7:30 PM PDT reply actions

And still....

Don Nelson wants this guy to start... For God... how is this guy going to stop Tim Duncan, Carlos Boozer, Garnett??? I still dont believe he will start at PF...

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions

He's also

3-6 for 7 points and a block. Just sayin'...

by ivanbe on Oct 23, 2007 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions

ok but...

My question remains... how is this guy going to stop TD? Boozer? Garnett? He´s got a lot of high and lows...today he´s scoring well but I still cant see this guy guarding bigger and stronger PFs... my opinion...

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions

I feel you

but who ELSE is going to? Barnes? Harrington? Croshere? I mean, NOBODY can really defend TD, Boozer, or Garnett, but nobody on our roster can even come close. Might as well try to make a mismatch out of it that might also turn to our favor. For the record, I still like Barnes or Al better at the starting 4, though I can see what Nellie's thinking on the Al 6th-man plan.

Also: fouls are killing us tonight, so the points that Pietrus scored were, at the very least, negated by his fouling.

by ivanbe on Oct 23, 2007 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Totally agree with you

And also, basketball is not only a game of scoring... see the Spurs, they are a great defensive teams and are creating a dynasty... Defense wins games, offense is fun... I think the starting lineup should be:
PG - Baron Davis
SG - Kelenna Azubuike (or Marco Belinelli)
SF - Stephen Jackson (or Matt Barnes during his suspension)
PF - Al Harrington
C - Andris Biedrins
Pietrus should be behind Marco, Buike, Ellis, Barnes on the rotation...

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Al Harrington

How about 4-6 FG, 8 points and 6 rebounds... the other day he had 14 rebounds (I know he missed 1500 shots...)... Hew said he worked hard during the offseason to make his body a "rebound machine", lost 20 pounds... I think he deserves to start at PF!

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Absolutely

Your starting lineup was the one I was hoping for (along with most of us, probably). I trust Nellie though; he'll make adjustments pretty quickly if his idea doesn't work. That might be his strongest suit as a coach.

by ivanbe on Oct 23, 2007 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions

wert

I wish this game was televised, it sounds like the warriors are running circles around these clowns.

by tajbled on Oct 23, 2007 7:31 PM PDT reply actions

Following game on NBA Audio League Pass

Listening to it from thousands of miles away in London and it is going pretty well so far. The points are being spread around nicely so far but MP2 and POB are fouling too much.

by zaki on Oct 23, 2007 7:39 PM PDT reply actions

31 - 26 warriors up

after 1 qtr

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 7:43 PM PDT reply actions

sonics up 1

sounds like the dubs is gettin' used by szerbiac

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 7:51 PM PDT reply actions

Dubs up 5

Dizzle with 14

Who's your Dizzle?

by Fluid1 on Oct 23, 2007 8:02 PM PDT reply actions

a bit late

but good to see Monta back in the lineup.

by Caught Backcourt on Oct 23, 2007 8:12 PM PDT reply actions

Can anybody

tell me why the sonics have shot 24 FT in the 2nd quarter?

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 8:16 PM PDT reply actions

POB 3 fouls in one minute?

Is this for real or did yahoo have another glitch in its stat listings?? my goodness...

by crazyray on Oct 23, 2007 8:25 PM PDT reply actions

Unfortunately,

It is real. Crosh has been the back up center most of the game. Although beans seems to be at midseason form.

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions

um....

i don't get why baron is playing so much (he's played the whole game) when what nellie really needs to find is a good combo of guys for when baron is not on the floor.

by the evil monkey on Oct 23, 2007 8:33 PM PDT reply actions

crap

baron's hurt.

by the evil monkey on Oct 23, 2007 8:46 PM PDT reply actions

baronn.

thankk you god it was only a cramp thoo. we cannot afford him becoming injured before the season.

by GSwarrior on Oct 23, 2007 8:51 PM PDT reply actions

of course...

Nelson meda him play 31 of the possible 35 minutes so far... no rest in the first half... why?

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions

BD

i was gonna post this before i read the previous comment about baron being hurt...thats not something i like to read.
but i was gonna lament on how bad he was playing.

4 for 14 with 6 turnovers in 30 minutes. hopefully the injury isnt too bad

by 3Kings650 on Oct 23, 2007 8:54 PM PDT reply actions

THUD...

2 turnovers back to back...nice....moron

by kyoung05 on Oct 23, 2007 8:58 PM PDT reply actions

Our starting PF

has just grabbed his FIRST rebound of the game!! HELL YEAH!!

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 9:05 PM PDT reply actions

He also fouled out in 12 minutes.

by ivanbe on Oct 23, 2007 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions

I think

that after tonights game, Nellie will have to change his starting lineup for next week because we wont be able to play with Utah with this unit...

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions

t- hud

this guy has reminded me of cabbages all preseason in terms of effectiveness.

by tajbled on Oct 23, 2007 9:12 PM PDT reply actions

T-Hud

Makes you realize why Nellie absolutely will not have MP play with him running the floor....it would be nothing short of a debacle...

by kyoung05 on Oct 23, 2007 9:14 PM PDT reply actions

not to mention

mp2's trade value will plummet.

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions

mp2 should

get a job on yo gabba gabba. but seriously, this game is super exciting.

by tajbled on Oct 23, 2007 9:22 PM PDT reply actions

Holy Crap...

It's so close. After Barnes made that 3....I thought we'd take the lead...until Durant made a 3...then a layup...jeez

by kyoung05 on Oct 23, 2007 9:22 PM PDT reply actions

Yea...

makes you wonder why the hell they're not broadcasting this....they'd get ratings

by kyoung05 on Oct 23, 2007 9:23 PM PDT reply actions

Barnes...

NICE clutch shots...

by kyoung05 on Oct 23, 2007 9:26 PM PDT reply actions

hate to see

durant go down w/ preseason injury.

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 9:27 PM PDT reply actions

KD

Comes up limpin' and headed for locker room! :o

by Anomaly on Oct 23, 2007 9:28 PM PDT reply actions

Ellis....

He lacks focus....turnover at a critical juncture...

by wander7 on Oct 23, 2007 9:32 PM PDT reply actions

Xrtra Credit

b-ball time!

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 9:35 PM PDT reply actions

Monta definetly is not a PG

3 key Turnovers in crunch time... he cannot handle the god damn ball... Dear God! 6 Turnovers for the game!

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 9:35 PM PDT reply actions

The kid

DOES seem quite shaky at crunch time.

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Glass-Half-Full moment...

At least the youngins are getting xtra burn.

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 9:37 PM PDT reply actions

I like

the fact that Nelson is letting his rookies play in crunch time AND overtime though...

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 9:38 PM PDT reply actions

wright

showing 17-20ft range on that jumper.

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 9:39 PM PDT reply actions

How about

Belinelli first all around game with 5 assists, 9 points (so far...), 4 rebounds and 3 ateals?

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 9:40 PM PDT reply actions

same ol

same ol monta. 3 assists, 7 turnovers

"http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Z8ITi64nxXscFM:http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/newsev ents/2007/05/11/slam.jpg"

by NinerWarrior on Oct 23, 2007 9:42 PM PDT reply actions

No...

Make it 8 TURNOVERS...

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions

monta

make that 8 turnovers

"http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Z8ITi64nxXscFM:http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/newsev ents/2007/05/11/slam.jpg"

by NinerWarrior on Oct 23, 2007 9:45 PM PDT reply actions

how about

27 team turnovers?

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions

at least

we didnt hand over monta big skrill. he and pietrus are going to play themselves out of a fat paycheck. just more reason to throw that change at biedrins.

by tajbled on Oct 23, 2007 9:46 PM PDT reply actions

In OT

B Wright> Monta

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions

How about (also)

Brandan Wright? 7 points, 6 rebounds, 1 steal, no turnover, showing 17-20ft range... great for the kid

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 9:48 PM PDT reply actions

SzerbiaK

Lookin like Allen.

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 9:51 PM PDT reply actions

yeah

on the plus side the rookies are leading them to victory in the clutch despite all the monta turnovers.

by the evil monkey on Oct 23, 2007 9:53 PM PDT reply actions

BWright & Lasme

my heroes!

by Anomaly on Oct 23, 2007 9:53 PM PDT reply actions

Just a note

If Pietrus and Hudson had scored 1 point more each, the warriors would have had 10 players in double figures, great point distribution.
By the way... its a final in Seattle 126 x 122 Warriors (the rookies won the game in overtime against Seattle best unit)

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 9:55 PM PDT reply actions

well

almost best - No Durant.

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions

hahahaha

yeah... forget about that! WE WON!! hahaha
Meaningless game though... as ATMA and crew like to call these games hahaha

F**K REFS!!!

by faetati on Oct 23, 2007 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions

for you Monta bashers...

Ellis 6/11 with 8 TOs for 15 points in 33 minutes
Davis 4/14 with 6 TOs for 14 points in 31 minutes

Criminy, it was Ellis' first action in preseason! I think he had a pretty good game.

Minute for minute, Wright matched up well with Durant in the box score. Lasme with 2 blocks in 14 minutes. Bellinelli with a nice stat line. Looking forward to the season!

by warriorfaninlakerland on Oct 23, 2007 10:12 PM PDT reply actions

sheesh, don't be so sensitive

outside of scoring, monta had a bad game(which he's allowed, esp. coming off a serious injury). he was obviously rusty, seeing as how luke ridnour rejected him twice at the rim - that said, watson pretty much schooled him tonight - to the point that, outside of a few isolations, belinelli was running the team in the latter stages of the game.

and all ppl are saying is based on what we saw tonight (charges, bad one hand passes, getting picked by earl watson over & over again) it seems like monta's game hasn't improved from last yr. or, in other words, still a good player, just not all that much better than he was last yr.

just b/c ppl think he's the "same old monta" doesn't necessarily mean they think he sucks. just like "same old spurs" doesn't mean they suck.

by the evil monkey on Oct 23, 2007 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Fun game...

I just caught the last few minutes of the 4th and overtime but it had me sitting in my kitchen listening intently to my radio.

It was good to see the young guys getting some extended run together down the stretch. Yeah, there were some critical errors (Monta, Monta, Monta...) but that's what preseason is for. The kid is not going to learn how to play the point by reading books, he is going to learn by kicking himself in the a$$ all night after making mistakes in crunchtime. I don't know if he will ever be an NBA PG, but I'm glad to see that Nellie is going to push him into that role and see how he responds.

BWright sounded pretty good and Lasme had an important block when we needed a stop. Overall it was pretty fun for a radio only preseason game. lol.

by olympicmike on Oct 23, 2007 11:05 PM PDT reply actions

yeah, looks like nellie is rethinking on wright

http://www.examiner.com/a-1006560~Wright_helps_Warriors_escape_with_126_122_overtime_victory_over_So nics.html

by the evil monkey on Oct 23, 2007 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions

well, what do expect?

The kid knocks down the only 2 open mid range jumpers he saw. If he can knock those down with any consistency, lightweight or not, that sounds like the perfect compliment to beidrins down low. In this system, that is.

THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Oct 23, 2007 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions

er...

actually it sounds more like nellie's talking about his work on the glass,

"He's got something special because he's so long and quick. He got to balls no one else on the team could have gotten."

that's what they ask wright about as well,

"When a shot goes up, you have to go to the boards. It's instincts and being able to use your athletic ability and quickness to get to the glass."

by the evil monkey on Oct 24, 2007 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions

Perfect compliment

to Harrington too.

by BingBluNT on Oct 24, 2007 2:10 AM PDT up reply actions

POB Back to Bakersfield?

After tonight's game, I wonder if our overhype of POB led to this eventual flounder of a performance. I'll be interested to see if POB gets sent back to D-League instead of our other rookies.

by crazyray on Oct 24, 2007 12:00 AM PDT reply actions

yeah

Kurt Thomas, Nick Collison, Chris Wilcox...it wasn't like the Sonics were trotting all-star bigs out there.

Would have been nice to see him use his fouls and actually get some boards, blocks, or steals...instead, fouling without doing anything else is just wasteful.

Problem is that we don't have another backup C on the roster.

Questions? Complaints?

(AIM: JetForze; email: Jon.d.ma@gmail.com)

by OptionZero @ Golden State Of Mind on Oct 24, 2007 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions

no way he goes

It's one thing for a rookie top-10 pick to be sent to the D-League, its another for a second year player. Especially when he plays your thinnest position.

POB needs time against NBA talent so he can learn the limits of fouling. When he stays in games, we know he can block shots, score, and even make nice passes. At this point sending him to the D-league won't help his progress. Hopefully he can get to the point where it takes 5 minutes to get his first foul, and slowly build up from there.

5 minutes. sometimes, its a lot to ask for...

by BingBluNT on Oct 24, 2007 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions

Amir Johnson

was a second year player and played the whole season in the D-League. He's turning heads now in Detroit. All i'm saying is that D-League is not the worst of things. It does help the players although not the fans.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Oct 24, 2007 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions

I'm still guessing

that POB starts the season with the Warriors and Wright with the D-League. But you might see that flip-flop as the season progresses.

by San Francisco Slim on Oct 24, 2007 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Sounds about right

POB has got to put up or shut up, while there is still no rush with Wright.

by olympicmike on Oct 24, 2007 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions

I hope everyone and .....

Nellie remembers that AB used to foul in bunches too. POB needs time on the court to learn how to play without fouling...

by wander7 on Oct 24, 2007 3:03 AM PDT up reply actions

8 TOs is Troubling

Yes its his first game but its not like he's an established PG; he was shaky last year with the ball and made turnovers. I really wish he had worked on this during the summer. You can be rusty and not make 8 TOs in a week.

Wright is a player. He can help but only in spurts.

POB will help this year. He's learned and let's give him some time.

Nothing better than "The City".

by philsmith75 on Oct 24, 2007 9:38 AM PDT reply actions

Catfish after the game

Did anyone read the new training camp entry at the Dubs site? After the Sonics game, Jack had the post game meal for everyone be catered by Catfish Corner, a local catfish restaurant owned by Jack's relatives. Once again, this is a great example that shows why Jack is a good captain and an even better teammate. Although he didn't play tonight, he still mentored from the sidelines and provided food to boot! MMM Catfish and fried chicken ::drools::

by crazyray on Oct 24, 2007 9:52 AM PDT reply actions

Seattle's

seafood is some of the best I've ever had. Unlike SF, they can actually eat the fish that comes out of the waters. If you guys get a chance to eat at Ray's Boathouse, I highly recommend the king salmon...doesn't get any better than that.

by kyoung05 on Oct 24, 2007 10:12 AM PDT reply actions