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Kosta Perovic Will Be Jammin'

Well we all knew it was just a matter a time before this happened [Inside Bay Area]:

Rookie center Kosta Perovic was sent down to the Bakersfield Jam, the Warriors' affiliate in the NBA Development League. The move had been talked about for weeks as the 22-year-old, inactive for five of the Warriors' seven regular-season games, was clearly not ready. "He's going to go down there and play some minutes," Mullin said. "I thought he was making pretty good progress

The Warriors front office seems to be big fans of paying players millions of dollars to play in the DLeague. I'm not. Kosta has yet to play a single minute this season and he didn't exactly set the world on fire in the preseason. The Kosta signing was really curious coupled with the plethora of projects on this roster, namely Patrick O'Bryant, Marco Belinelli, Brandan Wright, and even Andris Biedrins and Monta Ellis to a degree.

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Kosta in the zero threat position.

Saddling this roster up with so many players who just aren't ready to compete at this level for big minutes is just making Nellie's life more difficult. After all that he's accomplished in his illustrious NBA coaching career do you really think Nellie has the patience to tutor and develop so many projects who arguably aren't future superstars?

How much if any do you think Kosta will contribute to the Warriors this year?


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biedrins...
a project? no!

He's likely our most consistent player and hes putting up $11 million numbers EASY.

by NinerWarrior on Nov 19, 2007 11:08 AM PST   0 recs

Read carefully
even Andris Biedrins and Monta Ellis to a degree

They're still players that Nellie and coaching staff are developing. Their games aren't mature, but that doesn't mean that they can/ are helping out big this season.

And your 11 million figure is more than the Clips are paying Kaman and the Hornets are paying Chandler.

by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 19, 2007 11:17 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Contracts
One important factor when evaluating contracts is the context in which they were signed.

Kaman was signed before hitting RFA; Biedrins will be signed after his 4th year.

During the past 4 years, one could make a case that he did more than Kaman did before signing his deal.

In the end, the $10-11M mark is probably what's fair in light of what Jefferson got, which pushed the market price down a bit.

At this point, there probably aren't too many people that would complain about $11M for Biedrins, and I can't see too many teams turning down the chance to get Biedrins at that price.

24 > 23

AIM: Jetforze

by OptionZero on Nov 19, 2007 12:15 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I think I undervalued him myself
I did a little perusing on other teams boards and most of the teams we've played like beans a lot.   In fact someone on the raptors board said he might be a white Amare.

I'm starting to think he may have some suitors this off season.

Best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Nov 19, 2007 12:31 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

White Amare?
Wow if they really think that it's time to make a trade with the Raptors right now for Bosh. Biedrins' game has very little resemblance to Amare's. Amare's an infinitely better offensive player and has a much more complete repertoire, Biedrins is a better defender, and on the boards I'd rate them pretty similar.

by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 19, 2007 12:38 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Honestly
I thought that was hella funny myself.  But I don't know about bosh.  It seems he's got bad case of jumperitis from what I heard from many raptor fans.
Best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Nov 19, 2007 12:48 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Bosh = injury
While he looked relatively mobile and springy, I wonder if that summer ankle/foot injury is still bugging him (and if it will continue to bug him). Perhaps its rust from sitting for a while with an injury + being a young player still. That, and he had Stephen Jackson riding him wherever he went.

24 > 23

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by OptionZero on Nov 19, 2007 12:51 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

We'll def see
We're months away from having to worry about the contracts on this team, but as right now I'm not all that excited about locking in players on a 2-6 ballclub to big money deals. The daily "how much should we pay X guy" right now just in my opinion aren't the important topic, it's on court play- unless it's for deciding what trades to make in-season of course.

For example people hailed the JRich trade as a way to help make sure the Warriors could keep both Biedrins and Monta. 2 weeks ago I wasn't all that excited about paying Biedrins big money and I doubt many want to extend Monta right now with a lucrative long term deal. I'd rather have JRich than Monta right now.

We'll definitely see. The good news is we're probably months away from having to deal with these tough questions.

by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 19, 2007 12:36 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Absolutely!
What's the use in paying this same squad big money until we have proof that they bring W's to the W's?

by chacabuco on Nov 19, 2007 2:18 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

odd
i posted that yesterday and it got deleted. has anybody seen videos, clips etc of him any place? i looked for info about his partizan stats i could not find much about him.  

by iAMsmrek on Nov 19, 2007 11:44 AM PST   0 recs

It's hidden
In the future please make what you're quoting clearly different from what are your own words.

by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 19, 2007 11:47 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Kosta Jam
No big surprise here. The signing was a real head-scratcher right from the start. Let's hope he doesn't prove to be a complete waste of space this year. Chances are he will be because of all the projects on the roster he is the one that will probably need the most time to develop.

BTW, "zero threat position" has got to be the funniest thing I've read here in quite a while.

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by olympicmike on Nov 19, 2007 11:47 AM PST   0 recs

diversified investment
if the dubs can be simultaneously training and maintaining rights to 16 or 18 players, between the NBA and D-League, that's definitely in our interests.  7 footers are always an iffy investment, and if we can have four or five guys on tap, maybe 1 or 2 will pan out.  as a fan, it would be ideal if the dubs were to have an entire d-league squad that we could draw from, depending on who is injured/healthy, motivated/slacking.

all that said, i respect the question about how many guys we want on our NBA squad who aren't game-ready.  as of now, i'm pretty excited about the guys we have.

by OaktownWarrior on Nov 19, 2007 12:08 PM PST   0 recs

zero threat position
That's got to be a classic.

24 > 23

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by OptionZero on Nov 19, 2007 12:12 PM PST   0 recs

lets not forget who drafted him
mike montgomery drafted him so u kno he isnt that athletic just a big man. even tho i see POB turning into a decent role player i dunno bout kosta. ND LASME WHAT THE HELL HE COULDA BEEN A FUTURE MONTA OR  AREANAS CUZ HIS A 2ND ROUND DRAFT PICK

by gswLLBatman on Nov 19, 2007 1:35 PM PST   0 recs

lets not forget who drafted him - Mullin
Chris Mullin drafted him.  Mullin also drafted AB, Ellis and POB among others.

by Ace Fury on Nov 19, 2007 3:33 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

KOSTA-WAY
How much if any do you think Kosta will contribute to the Warriors this year?

I say "WHO CARES?" as long as we're getting production from BEANS and POB and even CROSHERE at the 5 spot.  The only thing that kinda sucks is throwing those millions at him to be a D-LEAGUER!


"S.C. gooooo hooooome!!!"

by scottiepimppen on Nov 19, 2007 3:11 PM PST   0 recs

Andris as a project?
I personally feel Andris is not a project to any degree.  But I respect Mr. Atma Brother #1's opinion.

Because Oakland (Oakland), is just like Compton (Compton).

by dubsball on Nov 19, 2007 4:16 PM PST   0 recs

Andris W A S a project
did you guys forget his first year? half or more of GSoM was ready to jettison him back then ... and I know some of you knew from his magic reboundperminute stats that he'd be a star, so I exempting you from inclusion in that  

now AB's developed, and earned a nice raise - but he was absolutely a project when drafted

POB went from DLeague to backup C (for the time being) and may be a decent bargaining chip at midseason. If Kosta becomes that in a year then it wasn't a bad move.

we are still a trade away from playoffs imo

in Nelson we trust - do we have a choice?

by hardcore on Nov 19, 2007 5:21 PM PST   0 recs

Definition of a Project
Well I think it comes down to someone's subjective definition of a project. Biedrins is much more developed since his first year and infinitely better than his sophomore campaign (which I thought was the real disaster), but I still consider him a project to some extent.

His game still needs a lot of work and he needs to get stronger. Even his biggest fans will tell you that he's still improving, learning how to play, and hasn't reached his ceiling- which in my eyes makes him a work in progress/ project. I don't consider guys like Stephen Jackson and Baron Davis projects because they're at or near their ceiling as established players. Biedrins and Monta still have a ways to go to reaching their potential. Doesn't mean that as young, developing players they can't help the Warriors win now.

POB has played 1 good game as a backup Center so I'm really hesitant to say he's a reliable guy off the bench or that he's NBA ready.

And I agree this current roster isn't going make the playoffs. Hope they prove me wrong.

by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 19, 2007 5:33 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

when vs. what
my point was that when he started, AB was not much further ahead of POB, and maybe Kosta who knows ...I agree, the hype after just one good game for POB is waaaaay premature ....

by hardcore on Nov 19, 2007 5:38 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

It's a Good Topic
I actually think POB is more skilled than Biedrins and is further along than Biedrins was as a sophomore. The problem is POB's motor, hustle, and desire. Biedrins always had it and I've only see it from POB in one game. Their body language is completely different.

by Atma Brother ONE on Nov 19, 2007 5:43 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I concur with everyone
"Zero threat position" is an instant classic. I'll never look at Kosta again without thinking it.

by ffgolden on Nov 19, 2007 5:29 PM PST   0 recs

I'm actually...
pretty excited to see what Kosta can do in the NBDL. Maybe he can surprise us and show us why he wanted to enter the NBA, and with that ... enter the NBA.
Mike Dunleavy Jr's #1 FAN!!! (really)

by s0lefulwarrior on Nov 19, 2007 11:41 PM PST   0 recs

The zero threat position
...had me laughing SO hard, Man, that's rough!

by Jeremy Belvins on Nov 19, 2007 11:43 PM PST   0 recs

Taking the Hints
let's see...
  • POB's (relatively) cheap team option was declined for next season
  • Kosta signed to $1.8/yr for 3 years
  • we sign another center, DJ Mbenga, in another confusing move
What I take from this:
  • I think POB will be involved in a trade package this season.  If he was intended to be our backup C of the future, we would've picked up his option to keep him for cheap.
  • Kosta Perovic is the best kept secret in the NBA.  Why else would we spend so much money on him??
  • DJ Mbenga: our insurance policy in case our "best kept secret" really is what we think he is.
Honestly, I wish we had just picked up POB's $2.2mil option and had nothing to do with Kosta or Mbenga.  But if POB is included in a trade which gets us a very good player, then I can see the Kosta and Mbenga signings making more sense.

by jlagace on Nov 20, 2007 3:12 AM PST   0 recs

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