Open Thread: Game 2 -- Warriors vs Clippers

Warriors (W-L): 0-1
Clippers (W-L): 0-0
Time: 7:30pm PST
TV: FSN Bay Area
Radio: KNBR 680
As Atma Brother #1 wrote earlier today, "... the last time the Dubs lost their season opener they made the playoffs!"
Our overflowing (and at times overwhelming) confidence is always tempered by the reality that there are definitely some problems in the offense and defense. Not having emotional anchor Stephen Jackson (wow, saying that about him is weird) for 6 more games is going to hurt, but its a perfect opportunity for young backups Bellinelli and Azuibuke to step up and show folks why Mullin and Nellie trusted them to fill gaps left by JRich's departure (and also the aforementioned Jax's suspension).
The Warriors face division rival, the LA Clippers, tonight in their first away game this season. Luckily, they too, are missing several key pieces (Warrior killers Elton Brand and Shaun Livingston) due to injuries, which seems to give us a much better chance of winning. The Warriors finally ended their cursed losing streak against the Clippers last year post-Dunleavy trade, with the Jax and Harrington combo at the wing positions lifting the hex that the older Dun had on his NBA fantasy basketball reject, Dun Jr. in all his years at Golden State. I'm predicting big things for the Warriors tonight.
The marquee matchup, in my opinion, is going to be how well Andris Biedrins matches up with Chris Kaman, who's recent contract (5 for 52.5 million) seemed to set the precedent for big men (that is, centers). With talk swirling around whether Biedrins is the most bang for the buck, I would instead urge us to look to Kaman as the barometer of Biedrin's cash value. Kaman, who by far is more offensively skilled but having his set of motivational issues, made his 3rd year jump with quite similar stats, averaging 12 points and 10 rebounds, on a Clippers team that also had also broken it's post-season drought of its own proportions that year. Kaman, when motivated, can get those hustle points that Biedrins gets, but has the ability to score with the left and right hand with a variety of baby-hook shots in the paint. And word is that after cutting his hair, this man is ready to deliver this year. Though many have claimed that judging a player based on offensive output alone is limiting to a big man's true value and if we are generally judging Biedrins based on his defensive capabilities on and off the ball, shouldn't Biedrins be able to play some shut down defense against a player of similar or worse calibre? And shouldn't that then ALSO be a quantifiable indicator of his worth? Granted, this game isn't a one-on-one match between the two, but if matched up together, I think it could be a lens by which to think about Biedrins (future) worth.
Predictions:
* Warriors by 3, wining off game winning 3 pointer by Bellinelli!
* Kelenna Azuibuke has several tight dunks
* Al Thorton makes a good poster out of Patrick O'Bryant
* We see T-Hud's album on sale on Warriors team store this holiday season
What are your predictions for today's away game? Drop your thoughts and comments on the game by clicking "comments" below.
Also, check out Clipperblog.com and ClipsNation for some interesting news about the game and about the Clippers!
UPDATE (Atma Brother #1): Warriors lose 114-120.
Stay tuned for the recap...
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Mags
EB looks good in a suit
Sam Cassel leaves the game at halftime to go 'phone home'
Warriors D shuts down the Clips secret weapon, Paul Davis
by FoyledAgain on
Nov 2, 2007 3:49 PM PDT
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Over/ Under on Free Throws by Maggette + Thornton
by Atma Brother ONE on
Nov 2, 2007 4:05 PM PDT
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don't forget
by the evil monkey on
Nov 2, 2007 6:31 PM PDT
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Hudson should stay at home...
by lightz0ut on
Nov 2, 2007 4:19 PM PDT
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Prediction
- Big game by Pietrus and Baron, Maggette scores 30+, Thornton 15+10
by BlauGold on
Nov 2, 2007 4:43 PM PDT
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asdf
Thornton goes for a double double.
Dubs get 60 points in the paint without Brand there.
Dubs make at least 14 3pt shots.
Dubs break the 120 pt mark for the first time this season.
by J Rich 4 MVP on
Nov 2, 2007 4:53 PM PDT
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TGIF
by ViveAirFrance on
Nov 2, 2007 7:17 PM PDT
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Adonal Was in Warriors intro
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 7:33 PM PDT
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And a nice beginning....
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 7:46 PM PDT
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Mickael
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 7:50 PM PDT
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Back to back 3s from Mikey P?
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 7:51 PM PDT
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Lol anyone elses signal go out for 2 seconds?
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 7:54 PM PDT
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Clips radio guy isn't terrible
by SkipT on
Nov 2, 2007 7:54 PM PDT
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terrible call
by AJC3317 on
Nov 2, 2007 8:02 PM PDT
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Anyone know
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 8:07 PM PDT
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Not a great 1st quarter
by goGSW24 on
Nov 2, 2007 8:21 PM PDT
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Great
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 8:26 PM PDT
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HEY WAIT
SOMEONE WHO COULD BLOCK SHOTS AND REBOUND SUCCESSFULLY FOR OUR TEAM!?!?!?
THE ONE AND ONLY:
ADONAAAAAAL FOYLLLLLLEEEE!!!!
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 8:27 PM PDT
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Hey, it's only 11 points now
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 8:38 PM PDT
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POB playing
by lightz0ut on
Nov 2, 2007 8:39 PM PDT
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Clips lead down to 6
by nautica on
Nov 2, 2007 8:44 PM PDT
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COMEBAAAAKKKKCCCCC!!!!!
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 8:44 PM PDT
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Hey guys
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 8:47 PM PDT
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TIP IN 59-59!!!! THEY'RE ALL PLAYING LIKE EDUARDO
AUBUIKE TAKES IT IN!!!!!
LEAD!!!!!
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 8:48 PM PDT
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The season is finally starting
by Dave on
Nov 2, 2007 8:49 PM PDT
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Beautiful. . .
by warriorgirl on
Nov 2, 2007 8:49 PM PDT
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Wow
Can I kick it?
by tadams1080 on
Nov 2, 2007 8:51 PM PDT
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Help Me
by Dr Chavez on
Nov 2, 2007 8:51 PM PDT
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wtf
by the evil monkey on
Nov 2, 2007 8:52 PM PDT
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Kamen sure has magnets for hands
by SkipT on
Nov 2, 2007 8:53 PM PDT
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tempo
Compound the problem with our stupid fouling and the refs whistleblowing...thats why the tempo is largely in their favor.
That, and we were cold and jumper happy
Hopefully we're in rhythm a bit, but i feel lucky we're tied.
They need to show more defense.
Questions? Complaints?
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by OptionZero on
Nov 2, 2007 8:55 PM PDT
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lookie at this.. troy hudson doesn't play
by saintdee on
Nov 2, 2007 9:04 PM PDT
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Just got in...
THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!
by Tim N Chris Burger on
Nov 2, 2007 9:04 PM PDT
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someone needs to beat up kamen lol
by dnguy026 on
Nov 2, 2007 9:05 PM PDT
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DAAAAAAAAAAMN
by NinerWarrior on
Nov 2, 2007 9:09 PM PDT
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Argh
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:11 PM PDT
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Wow, that was like
Pietrus vs. Patterson, 2 big bruisers....intense.
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:13 PM PDT
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I love Als
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:15 PM PDT
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Yes!
Can I kick it?
by tadams1080 on
Nov 2, 2007 9:17 PM PDT
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baron is really hurting the dubs w/ shooting
by the evil monkey on
Nov 2, 2007 9:19 PM PDT
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and monta is irritating me on defense
by lightz0ut on
Nov 2, 2007 9:21 PM PDT
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yeah...
by the evil monkey on
Nov 2, 2007 9:27 PM PDT
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What?
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:28 PM PDT
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I was referring
by longus on
Nov 2, 2007 9:29 PM PDT
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Bellinelli is
(Hint: He's the new backup PG.)
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:23 PM PDT
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Is it just me
by longus on
Nov 2, 2007 9:31 PM PDT
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Jim Barnett Quote of the Game
Barnett- "Not When Mussolini was heading Italy."
Fitzgerald- "Oh, would you stop with the REAL history?!"
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:31 PM PDT
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yay for barnes
by saintdee on
Nov 2, 2007 9:33 PM PDT
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Patterson is so silly.
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:38 PM PDT
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what is up
by AJC3317 on
Nov 2, 2007 9:41 PM PDT
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No more 3s!
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:41 PM PDT
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baron should pass to belinelli
by saintdee on
Nov 2, 2007 9:43 PM PDT
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Mid range jumper in someones face?
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:46 PM PDT
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Caveman may have 20/20 night
THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!
by Tim N Chris Burger on
Nov 2, 2007 9:47 PM PDT
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WTF...
by kyoung05 on
Nov 2, 2007 9:47 PM PDT
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wow
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Nov 2, 2007 9:47 PM PDT
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UHOH
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:49 PM PDT
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what's with AB
THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!
by Tim N Chris Burger on
Nov 2, 2007 9:50 PM PDT
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AZUBUIEK ON KAMAN!!!!!
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:54 PM PDT
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AZUBUIEK RALLYNIG!!!!
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:55 PM PDT
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damn
by AJC3317 on
Nov 2, 2007 9:56 PM PDT
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Yea....
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Nov 2, 2007 9:57 PM PDT
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Off Dancing.
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 9:59 PM PDT
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I'm convinced...
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by Tim N Chris Burger on
Nov 2, 2007 10:00 PM PDT
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Uh Oh
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 10:01 PM PDT
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4.....3.....
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Nov 2, 2007 10:01 PM PDT
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1!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 10:02 PM PDT
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Sigh ...
I don't mind giving up more than the other guy, but it seems like there are times when the opposition is going to get as many shots as they need.
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Nov 2, 2007 10:03 PM PDT
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5!?!?!?!??!!?!?!?
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Nov 2, 2007 10:03 PM PDT
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i also hate
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Nov 2, 2007 10:03 PM PDT
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When we're
by kyoung05 on
Nov 2, 2007 10:04 PM PDT
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Damn I'm such a jinx
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Nov 2, 2007 10:05 PM PDT
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IT's All OlympicMikes Fault!
(JK)
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Nov 2, 2007 10:08 PM PDT
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If only...
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Nov 2, 2007 10:11 PM PDT
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Poor Choice?
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Nov 2, 2007 10:06 PM PDT
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UhOh
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Nov 2, 2007 10:09 PM PDT
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geebus so disappointing...
by saintdee on
Nov 2, 2007 10:09 PM PDT
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i don't blame him taking the shot
by lightz0ut on
Nov 2, 2007 10:10 PM PDT
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kaman just showed biedrins
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Nov 2, 2007 10:09 PM PDT
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Hudson = Foul fodder
THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!
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Nov 2, 2007 10:10 PM PDT
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Zorgon on
Nov 2, 2007 10:10 PM PDT
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ugh
Can I kick it?
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Nov 2, 2007 10:12 PM PDT
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We're off to a 0-3 start
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Nov 2, 2007 10:12 PM PDT
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man
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Guys I missed the 1st half
THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!
by Tim N Chris Burger on
Nov 2, 2007 10:13 PM PDT
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I hope this puts an end
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Nov 2, 2007 10:13 PM PDT
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pietrus showed promise in the beginning
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Maybe
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Nov 2, 2007 10:19 PM PDT
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why?
the warriors are playing horrible defense. our supposed two best defenders (baron, beans) got abused by brewer/boozer & mobley/kaman.
plus millsap & tim thomas both torched harrington.
they could of gotten by if they'd been hitting their 3's or if they'd taken less 3's, but the dubs don't know when to say when so we gotta just hope they start hitting them.
no sjax to guard mobley really hurt them tonight.
the reason why teams seem to shoot well against the dubs is b/c they have no length to bother opposing shooters.
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Nov 2, 2007 10:35 PM PDT
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hmm...
by crazyray on
Nov 2, 2007 10:21 PM PDT
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hella no
by warriorfan4life on
Nov 3, 2007 1:29 AM PDT
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no our problems are
by saintdee on
Nov 2, 2007 10:35 PM PDT
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problems extended
by AJC3317 on
Nov 2, 2007 10:52 PM PDT
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And when we do
THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!
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Nov 2, 2007 10:54 PM PDT
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i agree
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Nov 2, 2007 10:56 PM PDT
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How much longer will we have to wait
I believe this team will eventually shape up into something more closely resembling the "greatest nba upset ever" warriors, the question in mind is... when? 20 games, 40 games or like last year - 60 games.
Anyway, barring any blockbuster deals, I can't see this team getting out the 1st round of the playoffs, IF they do make it to post season play.
THIS IS OOOAKLAND!!!
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Nov 2, 2007 11:31 PM PDT
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