OPEN THREAD: Game 9 - Warriors @ Knicks

Warriors (W-L): 2-6
Knicks (W-L): 2-7
Time: 4:30pm PST
TV: FSN Bay Area
Radio: KNBR 680
The Warriors are on a win streak! The Warriors followed up their win against the Clippers with a come from behind win against the Raptors (thanks to JAlba of course). Despite the 2-6 record, things for the Warriors are looking much rosier than their opponent tonight, the New York Knickerbockers. The Knicks are struggling big time. After starting the season 2-1, they've lost 6 in a row (sound familiar?). You won't want to miss this game so be sure to get home in time for the early start time.
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I teamed up with Seth, from SB Nation Knicks blog, Posting and Toasting, to do a Q&A before the game to get a preview of the Knicks from a Knicks fan's perspective. For this preview, he asked me 3 questions about the Dubs and I asked him 3 questions about the Knicks. Here are his responses to my questions: |
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FJ, Golden State of Mind: The Knicks started off 2-1 and then suffered 5 straight close defeats followed by a blowout loss to Denver. They now sit at 2-7. What happened in the recent games for the team to slip? Do you think this recent slide has a lot to do with the Stephon Marbury situation, the road trip out West or are the Knicks just not very good right now?
Seth, Posting and Toasting: The answer to your "what happened?" question? Everything. The Knicks of the past week or two have been faced with a perfect storm of trials. We've got disgruntled personnel with the Marbury situation. There have been absences due to injury (Richardson, Balkman, Robinson) and family matters (Randolph). The last 4 games were on the road and all within 5 nights. Meanwhile, Isiah's scrapped his short rotation and opened up the scrub-gates, meaning we've got the likes of Mardy Collins and Fred Jones getting serious minutes. Add this all together and you've got a recipe for disaster. Excuses aside, the Knicks are back to their familiar habits of turning the ball over, relaxing on defense, and falling behind early. Things do not look good.
FJ, Golden State of Mind: A lot of Warriors fans know about the skills of Zach Randolph, David Lee, Stephon Marbury and Eddy Curry. Who are two lesser known players the GSOM readers (and Warriors) should be concerned about? How are these two guys going to cause problems for the Warriors?
Seth, Posting and Toasting: Jeez. It's hard to imagine anyone causing problems for anyone right now, but I do know that the Dubs have trouble defending the three. While Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson are streaky, they can feast from downtown if left alone. If Golden State's defensive rotation is a step slow, these guys can make 'em pay. Or at least I'd like to hope so.
FJ, Golden State of Mind: The Warriors are on a 2 game win streak after losing 6 in a row to start the season and look like the team is starting to click again. What do the Knicks have to do in order to win the game? Where do you see the Knicks have an advantage in the matchup and where might the Knicks have problems?
Seth, Posting and Toasting: The Knicks gotsta feed the paint and then feed it some more. The Warriors' small lineup causes a number of mismatches on defense (Randolph can't handle Stephen Jackson or Al Harrington. Curry can't keep Biedrins off the glass.), but we have a pretty sizable edge on offense with the EZ Money frontcourt. It all depends on pace, and whether we can use our relative girth as an advantage. The Nuggets beat the Knicks the right way- by running the break and/or getting wide-open threes over the sluggish defense. The Warriors have even more weapons in that department. On the other hand, if the Knicks can slow things down and bang bodies with Golden State's lighter big men, I think this game is winnable.
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The following are his 3 questions to me. Feel free to answer them in the comments:
- The Warriors notched their second win of the season upon the return of Stephen Jackson. Was this simply the result of a rejuvenated Golden State team, or does the man once famous for rolling around on the hood of a moving vehicle actually have this much effect on the Warriors' success?
- Marco Bellinelli lit up the Summer League, but is getting limited minutes in real games. I know you guys love him at GSoM, so tell me a little about Marco's game. Do you think he's got a legit shot at being a real NBA baller?
- Andris Biedrins isn't just rebounding and swatting fools this year; he's scoring. Is the big Latvian just getting more minutes than he used to, or has he actually developed an offensive game?
Also be sure to check out Posting and Toasting's Know the Opponent: Golden State Warriors Edition.
Predictions:
- Warriors win by 5
- Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph call timeout to eat some donuts
- Warriors have 6 players who score in double digits
- Biedrins runs circles around Randolph and Curry for another double double
- Marbury does not throw a temper tantrum until the 3rd quarter
Post your predictions, answers to the questions and your comments during the game in this open thread.
Update (Fantasy Junkie): The Posting and Toasting Open Thread for tonight's game is up with my answers to his questions.
Update 2 (Fantasy Junkie): Boxscore
Update 3 (Atma Brother #1):
Stay tuned for the Recap!
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Prediction
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on
Nov 20, 2007 10:43 AM PST
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asdf
by kenntoe on
Nov 20, 2007 2:15 PM PST
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easy
belinelli gets a triple single 6 pts 2 rebs 1 assist
by djchuckdeez on
Nov 20, 2007 2:20 PM PST
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Answers to Questions
- Although we were improving and we had picked up a win against the Clippers before his return, he has a big impact on the team and not only did he help us with his 17 points, 5 assists and 2 blocks but he also helped lead the team and his return boosted the team's confidence.
- I am a fan of Belinelli (partly because I have seen him play a few times for the Italian national team in the past few years and partly because I am half-Italian. We all know he is primarily a shooter and he can go on streaks but he also needs to try and pick up some assists and rebounds as well. He has good potential and just lacks confidence, he needs more minutes and then things will hopefully get better for him.
- I don't know an awful amount about AB but he is a solid center for us and will be looking for good numbers to get paid $ next year. His offensive game is a bonus to the team if it improves and will give us an extra option.
by zaki on
Nov 20, 2007 3:52 PM PST
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Answer for #3...
by kinetic on
Nov 20, 2007 3:59 PM PST
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15 more minutes
GO WARRIORS!!
by GSW glenn on
Nov 20, 2007 4:15 PM PST
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SJax on Zach Randolph...
by kinetic on
Nov 20, 2007 4:38 PM PST
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umm nevermind...
by kinetic on
Nov 20, 2007 4:42 PM PST
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Socal fans...
by barojax on
Nov 20, 2007 4:39 PM PST
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wow!
by OaktownWarrior on
Nov 20, 2007 5:10 PM PST
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I wish I was there...
by kinetic on
Nov 20, 2007 4:42 PM PST
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GOD Curry is OVER WEIGHT!
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on
Nov 20, 2007 4:44 PM PST
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warriors are looking bad...
by kinetic on
Nov 20, 2007 4:56 PM PST
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I shouldn't have worried...
by kinetic on
Nov 20, 2007 5:02 PM PST
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crappy play
by AJC3317 on
Nov 20, 2007 4:58 PM PST
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I'm at work... arghh!
by Tony.psd on
Nov 20, 2007 5:08 PM PST
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Just make sure the boss isnt around
by barojax on
Nov 20, 2007 5:11 PM PST
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Knicks have been sloppy on offense
by UncleCliffy on
Nov 20, 2007 5:11 PM PST
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The dubs might sleep walk
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on
Nov 20, 2007 5:14 PM PST
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Dude...
by wander7 on
Nov 20, 2007 5:14 PM PST
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good quarter
by AJC3317 on
Nov 20, 2007 5:14 PM PST
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belinelli in early
by AJC3317 on
Nov 20, 2007 5:21 PM PST
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Marco
by UncleCliffy on
Nov 20, 2007 5:32 PM PST
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dj banger
no offence, Zorgon.
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on
Nov 20, 2007 5:32 PM PST
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damn
by buky on
Nov 20, 2007 5:37 PM PST
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Offensive
by buky on
Nov 20, 2007 5:39 PM PST
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Pietrus
Did his agent suggest this to increase his value on the open market next year?
by UncleCliffy on
Nov 20, 2007 5:41 PM PST
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15 turnovers for the Knicks for 20 pnts
by barojax on
Nov 20, 2007 5:45 PM PST
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Nice Way to end the half
60-47.
MSG crowd booing.
by UncleCliffy on
Nov 20, 2007 5:47 PM PST
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nice last half of that quarter
by AJC3317 on
Nov 20, 2007 5:47 PM PST
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If the dubs aren't in garbage time mode
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on
Nov 20, 2007 5:49 PM PST
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I hear ya
by UncleCliffy on
Nov 20, 2007 5:50 PM PST
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Bench
by muritqua on
Nov 20, 2007 5:53 PM PST
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nice game so far
by BlauGold on
Nov 20, 2007 5:59 PM PST
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Al is struggling
by UncleCliffy on
Nov 20, 2007 6:06 PM PST
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the most imortant
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on
Nov 20, 2007 6:09 PM PST
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Oh so cold!!
by barojax on
Nov 20, 2007 6:10 PM PST
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We
by buky on
Nov 20, 2007 6:11 PM PST
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B2B 3's
by UncleCliffy on
Nov 20, 2007 6:12 PM PST
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FT are crap
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on
Nov 20, 2007 6:17 PM PST
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Is it just me....
by barojax on
Nov 20, 2007 6:18 PM PST
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rebs
ugly
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on
Nov 20, 2007 6:18 PM PST
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DJ BANGER
DJ BANGER!!!
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on
Nov 20, 2007 6:25 PM PST
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BANGER MADE 1
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on
Nov 20, 2007 6:28 PM PST
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Can they push the lead to 20?
by UncleCliffy on
Nov 20, 2007 6:31 PM PST
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barojax
by dsham001 on
Nov 20, 2007 6:31 PM PST
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asdf
by STIX on
Nov 20, 2007 6:35 PM PST
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So Mbenga doesnt have good hands
by barojax on
Nov 20, 2007 6:35 PM PST
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Austin Powers
by STIX on
Nov 20, 2007 6:37 PM PST
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He's turning out
Best duo since...
by Tim N Chris Burger on
Nov 20, 2007 6:40 PM PST
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DJ BLOCX!!!!
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on
Nov 20, 2007 6:38 PM PST
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Nice!!!
by barojax on
Nov 20, 2007 6:38 PM PST
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ahahahaha
by saintdee on
Nov 20, 2007 6:38 PM PST
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Capt. Jack
by UncleCliffy on
Nov 20, 2007 6:44 PM PST
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anyone else see
by kinetic on
Nov 20, 2007 6:50 PM PST
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get baron out of there
by mikej on
Nov 20, 2007 6:51 PM PST
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It's official
A Brandan Wright sighting?
by UncleCliffy on
Nov 20, 2007 6:51 PM PST
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first time
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on
Nov 20, 2007 6:53 PM PST
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ill bet you a dollar its under 90
by STIX on
Nov 20, 2007 6:55 PM PST
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Man....
by STIX on
Nov 20, 2007 6:53 PM PST
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great game
by AJC3317 on
Nov 20, 2007 7:01 PM PST
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JAckson
by riceisnicee on
Nov 20, 2007 7:02 PM PST
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3-game win streak...
by kinetic on
Nov 20, 2007 7:02 PM PST
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hahahaa
by STIX on
Nov 20, 2007 7:03 PM PST
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Jack
by UncleCliffy on
Nov 20, 2007 7:03 PM PST
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Final score
Boxscore
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2007112018Box score
First game the Dubs limits the opteam below 100
by muritqua on
Nov 20, 2007 7:03 PM PST
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It may just be the Knicks ...
by Johnny D on
Nov 20, 2007 7:05 PM PST
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3 Game win-streak
Now we're heading to Boston on a 3 game win streak.
by zaki on
Nov 20, 2007 7:06 PM PST
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^%*&#& Nelson
What is Baron, Jax, and AB doing in the game when their up 20?
Where the hell is POB and Wright??? Please give me one good reason. uhh...there is none.
We already know what Croshere is going to give us, how about playing the young guys?
%*($(& Nelson. Terrible.
by kenntoe on
Nov 20, 2007 7:07 PM PST
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Um here is 5 reasons why they were in
2)They need to play together.
3)It wasnt an overtly physical or emotional game, no harm letting them get a few more laps.
4) I said so
5)Chuny peanut butter is better than creamy
by STIX on
Nov 20, 2007 7:11 PM PST
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the only valid
by kenntoe on
Nov 20, 2007 7:53 PM PST
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Just got back from MSG- Jack's got my back...
knick fans are a dispirited bunch. all they did was chant "fire isiah" to the tune of "lets go knicks".
i was talking to a knicks fan and said Jack was a good passer, well Jack wasn't passing much tonight, so i started hearing it every time jack took and missed a shot. these guys didn't have much to cheer about and started getting even more annoying ('thug' stereotypes, totally misrepresenting our tri-captain). it started getting on my nerves, until finally- FINALLY- that beautiful bounce pass into croshere, and he really came alive. i mean-mugged them b/c i knew jack would have my back. the fools behind me were very quiet. not much of a story, but it was very satisfying to see the guys (along with 1/2 the crowd) scurry away with 8 minutes to go.
still it just makes me happy the warriors are not that crappy anymore- i really felt sorry for the families and fans, b/c they had nothing to cheer for. the few warriors fans, we were slapping 5's whenever we saw each other- it was pretty cool.
this game was a rest, that kind of play definitely won't win many games...
by airport son on
Nov 20, 2007 7:51 PM PST
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hey
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on
Nov 20, 2007 10:59 PM PST
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nah
by airport son on
Nov 21, 2007 10:41 AM PST
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Great Surprise
Feel slightly sorry for Knick fans because they pay huge $$ and they get to see Mr. Max Contract, Zach, go for 7 TOs. Beautiful. Also Nate Robinson 0-6. Sweet.
by philsmith75 on
Nov 20, 2007 8:45 PM PST
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Warriors
by semarubaka on
Nov 20, 2007 9:24 PM PST
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I feel
Ballin
by ballin on
Nov 20, 2007 10:12 PM PST
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I disagree...
by Zack Vank on
Nov 20, 2007 10:58 PM PST
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Ha Ha Ha
Best duo since...
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Nov 21, 2007 6:19 AM PST
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