Playoff Poll Results

by Fantasy Junkie on Feb 4, 2007 8:15 PM PST in News Comment 2 comments

In the past couple weeks, we've had 2 polls up about what everyone thinks about the Warriors playoff chances. There was a poll that happened before the trade and a poll after the trade. Let's look at the results:

BEFORE the 8 player trade:

AFTER the 8 player trade:

Clearly we were all happy about the trade and thought great things were going to happen. Unfortunately, the trade isn't working out as planned and our road trip out East is eliminating hope from even some of the most die hard fans. Will the streak extend to 13 years? Looks like it unless the Warriors can win on the road an roll off a nice win streak. Before we think playoffs, let's think .500.

I would put up another poll about Yes/No on playoffs right now but I'm afraid to see what the poll would look like, something like 0% Yes, 100% No. Yikes.

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though i voted 'no' both times,

i was cautiously optimistic that the warrior's might get there (the reason i voted no though was b/c w/ cassell finally healthy, i thought the clippers would make a run).

like everyone else, i thought the trade was great for our cap future, but i also thought we would improve b/c dunleavy was the only one consistently playing out of the 4 ex-w's, and that harrington was a huge upgrade alone.. but what ended up happening was something completely different.

harrington & sjax coming has greatly diminished barnes, pietrus, azubuike play & to a lesser extent that of monta (less touches) & biedrins (bigger burden). so instead of taking the place of murph/dun, they have taken over the production of those 5.

so basically, the production of harrington, sjax, barnes version 2, pietrus v2, azubuike v2, monta v2, and beans v2 have not equalled that of barnes version 1, pietrus v1, azubuike v1, monta v1, beans v1, murph and dun. jassy has been less productive than mcleod and diogu/powell kind of cancel each other out (diogu's pluses came on low post scoring and powell's on spelling beans). ball movement is down, assists are down, and turnovers are up. to sum it up, subtraction by addition.

on the pacers, the opposite is true. like how iguodala & co. have flourished w/ the departure of iverson, granger & co. have flourished w/o harrington and jackson getting in their way. granger has taken harrington's place, dun's equaled sjax's production and murph has filled in the production of granger (albeit in different ways)... meanwhile, guys like darrell armstrong, marquis daniels, and diogu (last game) have given the pacers an added boost off the bench w/ their increased opportunities. addition by subtraction.

by the evil monkey on Feb 4, 2007 10:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

predictable

The worrisome part is that all of the changes in the Warriors post trade were predictable when you looked past the scoring average. In Indy Harrington and Jackson scored more than the guys we sent out, but they did so by taking more shots and playing more minutes, not by being more efficient scorers. If they were to continue to play their minutes, they'd have to replace not just Murphleavy's production, but the other forwards whose minutes they were destined to cut into.

It was entirely predictable that Jackson and Harrington would bring us fewer rebounds, more turnovers, fewer assists. That was what they were doing in Indy as well. It was predictable that Harrington wouldn't be an upgrade because he hadn't helped out a poor franchise in Atlanta (and arguably held them back--they made no attempt to retain him and they were better before and after he was there) and wasn't making Indy any better than they were before. It was even predictable that they wouldn't come in and revolutionize the defense since a) it's impossible to have effective defense if you can't rebound the ball after a missed shot and b) they were both negative +/- players in Indy.

The only thing this trade did for us was begin to fix some salary issues, but it's a marginal fix that will take a while to pay dividends. I only hope that salary was behind the trade for the Warriors because if they really thought that Harrington and Jackson were going to be a big boost to the team, the sort of analysis they're doing to determine what players are worth (hey look! scoring average!) is destined to lead to more gaffs where they overpay marginal players in the future.

by jae on Feb 5, 2007 8:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs