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Recap: Warriors 100, Jazz 104 - Bombs Away.

Ugh. That was a downright shame. I can't put it any other way. Given some of the other NBA results today, we needed this win. We need everything we can get.

Boxscore

Warriors Jazz Basketball

Hair gel battle under the rim.

I have to try not to be mad at our boys. I really do. Walking away from this game it would appear that they came out big tonight and had the Jazz on the run for almost the entire game. Hell, they even broke through their standard third quarter blues and retained a decent lead going into the fourth!

Big Al came huge with a jaw dropping 7 threes. Jackson had a decent performance including a perfect run at the charity stripe. Biedrins had some quality boards, although I wouldn't go so far as to call this one of his best games ever. JRich had a few timely shots and a great contribution. And Baron?! Damn at some points in the game, it felt like it was Baron on 5. And he was winning.

But something was wrong. Although we held the lead almost the entire game, we were never able to truly run away with it. Short of a spectacular display of three-point shooting in the first half, the Dubs were fighting for every last point. When the fourth quarter came around however, it came down to poor shots, fouls, turnovers, and some heavy usage of the whistle by the refs.

Warriors Jazz Basketball

"What?! That was all ball ref!"

But before I go on, I have to say that I don't blame the refs for this loss. I'm not saying that was the best officiating ever either, but if we were really the team that should have won tonight; those whistles would have been simple annoyances to us. Instead, we may be looking back to each whistle as the pinnacle turning point from victory to defeat. Deep down, I don't see that as being true.

At the end of the day, I blame the long shot. The streak of threes in the first half had the exact effect that I feared. As the game progressed and we found ourselves going blow for blow with the Jazz, it was easy for everyone to revert back to "old faithful" and chuck up some shots from beyond the arc. Why not? We're on fire tonight, aren't we?

Well, not only did this tactic lead to fewer trips to the charity stripe for us; it allowed the more aggressively rebounding Jazz to gain easy possessions from us. And you can be sure that they weren't taking the ball down and attempting to drain a three. Tonight, the Jazz beat us on the fundamentally proven tactics of playing low and drawing the fouls (30 shot to our 17), cleaning the glass (44 boards to our 30), and finding cutters and open looks. (32 dimes to our 21 including 17 from Williams alone!)

We have some serious homework to do. The road to the playoffs is not getting any easier from here on out. It's going to be up to these guys to take the initiative to be aggressive on the court. If they can't, we are going to continue to get dominated by teams that base their strategy on low post ball.

You live by the three. You die by the three.

Tonight we did both.

wwonder

I know that big Al came out tonight with some sniper-like shooting, but given the theme of this recap, I have to give this to Baron. When the game came down to the wire, he was the only reason that we were even still in it. I can think of at least 3 times tonight where he was getting down and dirty on his shots and should have had the whistle on his side. With limited minutes tonight he produced well. Heart of a Warrior Baron!

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4th Q
everyone stands around and watches baron

There were some bad calls in this game but they have to figure out a way to score in the half court when they can't run.  

The 4th Q is how the playoffs are going to be

by Zig on Mar 20, 2007 10:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

are you a Warriors fan?
All I ever see is negative comments from you
More Hardware Coming!

by gsw4life on Mar 21, 2007 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

4th quarter
I couldn't bear to listen to the 4th quarter on the way home.  I had a bad feeling about it because the W's let Utah battle back in the second half. Utah is tough at home, but I really hoped someone other than Baron would step up. It is really a tough loss after finding out the Clippers and Hornets won and are in the hunt for that 8th spot as well.

by Spree15 on Mar 20, 2007 10:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nasty Loss
Shows how far the Warriors are from being an elite team in the league.

Deron Williams put up Stockton like numbers, Boozer following suit with a Malone or even Rodman effort with 21 boards.

by back2back51s on Mar 20, 2007 10:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good game
good game. it was close, jazz got a little lucky at home. but in the end, i blame atma brother one.

by chug2k on Mar 20, 2007 10:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ha ha
okay, i'm warming to you johnl.

by eshock on Mar 20, 2007 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm encouraged
I'll take that loss. We're clearly a better team on the road now, and we clearly are capable of beating yet another Western Conference playoff team. Sure we should have won, but you sometimes you win games and sometimes Paul Millsap hits jump shots.

by SpreeForThree on Mar 20, 2007 11:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
It would have been nice to win the game, and it would have happened if the Dubs played their game properly in the 4th, but hey: for a team that's lousy on the road, they hung in there and almost pulled it out, against the fourth best team in the league (record-wise). The cookie just didn't crumble the right way tonight, but you have to give our guys props.

by ffgolden on Mar 20, 2007 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

picture
i think you should try to photoshop the fingers out of the picture...kinda freaky. haha

by wander7 on Mar 21, 2007 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

on a positive note
this is a game that earlier this year they wouldn't have been close in the second half the way they played. they were able to hang around and had their chances. unfortunately i would say the turning point was caused by the refs when they made that horrible call on monta.

by AJC3317 on Mar 20, 2007 11:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It was a bad call but he left his feet
Get over it.  They lost because they stopped hitting their shots

by Zig on Mar 21, 2007 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why you such a Warrior hater?
Why the hatred man?  You have an opinion, say it nicely John Mccain.

If War brings Peace, Dubz' wit it then!

by gsdubz on Mar 21, 2007 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?
Zig's right.  Go back and watch the last five minutes of the game.  The W's offense simply stagnated, and they weren't hitting ANYTHING.  (The defense wasn't bad -- but the O was non-existent.)

It's real simple -- and has been noted by others: when you hit threes early, you risk setting yourself up for this when the defense tightens, as it always does, in the fourth quarter.  The W's simply stopped hitting anything when the game was on the line.

There were, though, two other big problems that set thia all up: first, the reserves (including Monta) did practically nothing throughout the game; second, as was easily predictable, Boozer just eats the W's alive since no one can handle him.  (As to the latter, I was hoping Powell might show something, but four minutes suggests Nellie didn't think he could stanch the flow of blood left in Boozer's trail, either.)

Tough game to lose, but entirely predictable -- and I'll wager there were many among us who, when the score was 91-91 with five minutes left, were sure the W's wouldn't pull it out.  Sadly, we were right.  And we still need a real, live "four" -- badly.  It's harsh, but that's the simple truth.

by johnl on Mar 21, 2007 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude
i said they played like crap didn't i? if ur gonna disagree that that call was not only really bad but also crucial then i'm sorry but ur just wrong. we get that stop and we're only down 2 with about 30 seconds left or however much time was on the clock. who knows what could happen after that.

by AJC3317 on Mar 21, 2007 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well
Blame the refs all you want.  (As my Daddy used to say: "If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts, we'd all have a happy Christmas.")  I didn't even respond to the call; nor am I tied up in fits that the refs failed to call the offensive goaltending that won the game for the Clips last night -- that's life; you don't get to re-cut the cake.

I'm concerned about things this improving team CAN control -- and what they still lack.  Simple truth: against the Jazz they lacked any bench (see Nellie's comments re same in Janny Hu's blog today) and that unless they can get a true "four" they'll never be able to hang with the elite teams.  THAT's the point.

by johnl on Mar 22, 2007 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's probably the biggest hole the
Warriors have and everybody knows it. People put stock in Ike Diogu as being capable of filling it even if it was a little oblivious to what he can do just because we hate seeing that hole there.

I just hope some player in the league knows it too and wants to come to this team to be that man at the 4, without trying to get a KG-sized contract unless his name is Kevin Garnett.

by back2back51s on Mar 22, 2007 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seemed like the Jazz didn't miss a FT...
in that last quarter. I hate how the Dubs go on a collective offensive brainfreeze on the road in waning moments of the game.  

This one got away and like the Wizard's game, the Dubs may regret it in the end.

by OaktownRajah on Mar 20, 2007 11:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully this will rejuvenate the hunger
I think that one game cushion got them relaxed.

by racsan on Mar 21, 2007 12:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

word
we prob can play better when there's more pressure and motivation.

by allthatjazz on Mar 21, 2007 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atma Propaganda = Atmaganda
On my diary, I have a poll of about 33 fans (so far), and 98% either think the refs screwed us over or are in such a state of shock that they don't know what to think.  

LOL

I appreciate your thorough recaps, and I guess it's getting to the point that it would be unprofessional to openly bash the refs in your summation of the game, which would explain:


some heavy usage of the whistle by the refs

But before I go on, I have to say that I don't blame the refs for this loss.

I kinda wish you guys would stand up MORE for our team and not be so quick to blame them just to be politically correct all the time.  But that's my opinion... and 98% of that poll.  


If War brings Peace, Dubz' wit it then!

by gsdubz on Mar 21, 2007 8:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

oh and Hash...
I know you wrote the recap, but I mean, we know who sets the rules.

If War brings Peace, Dubz' wit it then!

by gsdubz on Mar 21, 2007 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only rules we have
Are to keep the site a family show; something that I think everyone does a great job of doing. I do believe that we lost this game for ourselves. Yes, the whistles were not always in our favor but poor officiating in this league is beyond common; it's a given. If we want our boys to be a playoff team, they have to play like a playoff team. Poor officiating will be a part of the post-season as well. The real issue is "what are the Warriors going to do to ensure that these poor calls don't affect the outcome of future games?" The answer comes down to aggressive post plays, better bench production, better shot selections, mosre aggressive rebounding, etc. They need to change their strategy of play. That's what I tried to focus on during the recap. But again, in no way am I saying the refs made great decisions out there. I just want us to focus on the aspects of the game that we can control.

by Hash on Mar 21, 2007 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?
First of all Hash is his own man. A very fine man at that. One I've known for nearly 15 years. I do not tell my man what to write or what to think. This phat recap was his work and reflects his views entirely. Because of some meetings/ work unfortunately I actually didn't even see the game last night.

If you think I put a gag order on him on dissing the refs, then well- what can I say? You have quite an imagination.

Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they aren't a passionate Warrior fan, so please drop the McCarthyism at the door.

Look man, refs can make questionable calls, but in general I think they do a fine job in the NBA. Pinning every single loss on bad officiating is really delusional. The only time this season where I sincerely thought the reffing was just awful was that win against the Washington Warriors and I called out the refs: http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/story/2007/3/4/2319/44656

Your constant theatrical conspiracy claims and accusations of the writers and community members on this site are getting old and out of hand. Please take a chill pill.

by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 21, 2007 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're better than that Atma
I'll take your traditional approach here of analyzing the situation based on your comments.

Before I start, Hash, that was a good response, I appreciate your thorough explanation.  

Atma, you started off real well too, I really liked seeing your comment:


If you think I put a gag order on him on dissing the refs, then well- what can I say? You have quite an imagination.

That would have been good enough.  OK, my Atmaganda was a little out of line, I apologize, I really thought it was funny.

But then you snapped.


Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they aren't a passionate Warrior fan, so please drop the McCarthyism at the door.

Where did that come from?  I'm not saying that at all.  I'm just saying, if a fan wants to backup his guy no matter what, similar to how Zorgon defends Foyle no matter what, it just means those fans are more behind their team, whether you like it or not.


Look man, refs can make questionable calls, but in general I think they do a fine job in the NBA. Pinning every single loss on bad officiating is really delusional.

Come on, this is outrageous, I never blamed every single loss on them, just 1 that 92% of a poll of 43 fans agreed was the refs fault.


The only time this season where I sincerely thought the reffing was just awful was that win against the Washington Warriors and I called out the refs: http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/story/2007/3/4/2319/44656

Not a single person, outside the Wizards, actually, even Gilbert practically said, that the refs gave them that game, so I can't give too  much "kudos" for that bro.


Your constant theatrical conspiracy claims and accusations of the writers and community members on this site are getting old and out of hand. Please take a chill pill.

I've had about 3 or 4 criticisms of YOU, not the other writers.  There are a couple of community members I debate with, but I mean, this is a blog, am I not allowed to?  There are many people that post profanities and other obscenities that are far worse than my political views.  You obviously are very irritiated by my 3 or 4 critiques of you which were obviously with merit if they bothered you so much man.

I really dont' dislike you, it's just, you can't be so sensitive and irritable to differing views or perhaps accepting if you are wrong once in a while when you are the moderator of such a huge fanbase.


If War brings Peace, Dubz' wit it then!

by gsdubz on Mar 21, 2007 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You gotta be kidding
I'm not even going to respond to your ridiculous claims and arguments, but I will say this- we have received emails and comments from GSoM community members who have specifically complained about your tone and demeanor on this site. It's gotten so bad that some have even said they don't want to post here anymore because of your comments.

CHILL.

by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 21, 2007 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we have received emails and comments from GSoM community members who have specifically complained about your tone and demeanor on this site. It's gotten so bad that some have even said they don't want to post here anymore because of your comments.

Considering I've never posted a single profanity on this whole site, I find that hard to believe.  

Received emails because of me? Lost readers because of me?!  Who are you kidding?  You probably received 1 email from johni or zig, and maybe read a comment or two during an intense discussion, and now you try intimidate me like a child?

The most contraversial things I've ever said on this site I believe were when individuals defended Dunleavy and Murphy for no apparent reason and blamed their failure on Baron Davis, in which case I suggested a possible racial motive for such an outlandish idea.  Also, when individuals attacked Stephen Jackson upon his arrival without giving him a chance to play, and I suggested a possible racial motive.  That's really it.  Other than that, just voicing my opinions on matters and I've never been alone.

I think it's clear now, goldenstateofmind.com is a censored cite that does not allow us to discuss any possible social issues involving the NBA, Golden State Warriors or bay area culture that go against the mainstream/status quo.   Too bad, because that seems like Laker type censorship, not Warriors.  But since it's your site and your rules, I'll chill off, I mistakenly thought this was a community forum for ALL Warrior fans.  I was wrong.


If War brings Peace, Dubz' wit it then!

by gsdubz on Mar 21, 2007 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just to be clear
I really have no problem with what you say or your stances. I would say 75% of the time I'm in full agreement with you.

The problem is how you say it and how you address other people on this site, especially those who you disagree with.

I think it's clear now, goldenstateofmind.com is a censored cite that does not allow us to discuss any possible social issues involving the NBA, Golden State Warriors or bay area culture that go against the mainstream/status quo.

Man, I have no idea how you derived this conclusion. I personally have openly discussed social issues such as race and culture on this site and expressed my many counter-hegemonic viewpoints numerous times. I've also been criticized and taken a ton of heat for doing so. For you to say we just maintain the status quo here, well- you haven't done your homework.

You can believe what you want to believe and make your own conclusions and conjure up your own conspiracy theories. Not much I can do.

by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 21, 2007 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dubz, Dubz
No one's saying you shouldn't think -- or feel -- as you do.  It's your accusatory tone that can be so offensive.  Go back and read your posts: they're often pure rants, clearly not intended to convince anyone of anything (and certainly not examples of logic or rational thought).

Example?  I thought BD played poorly last year.  I explained what bothered me: his constant pounding of the ball (i.e. lack of movement; team stagnation); his concentration on picks and rolls (the two man game that never worked at the end of the game), his terrible shot selection and abysmal shooting average (had to be about the league's worst last year).  In any close game, you just knew the W's would lose at the end -- and they almost always did.  And I liked a lot of what Dunleavy brought to the table -- especially in terms of understanding the game and trying to play it that way.  (I still think he gives the hard foul better than any W -- and what he did last year with Kobe and KMart was priceless.)  I never, though, thought Dun was great, or even that he should be a starter.  I saw him and still do as a very good sixth man who could be great if he (1) had better shooting skills and (2) was faster physically.

Yet you start posting that such thoughts are nonsensical, so they must reflect racism -- since BD is black and Dun white.  (This, though I've consistently been critical of Murph and his -- in my opinion -- worthless double-doubles.)  It's offensive hogwash, the worst kind of name-calling, spun by one who seems to think the LOUDER he rants, the more persuasive his argument.  (BTW, if you disagree with my thoughts above, try and criticize them directly -- that's what Atma's always done: cull facts to support his position.)

This year, though, from the get-go, I've been BD's biggest fan.  I think he's turned his game around completely and the fit with Nellie has been better than I would have ever thought.  While he didn't have it at the end of the Jazz game (who did?), the difference in his game from last year -- especially when it's on the line in the fourth quarter -- has been night and day.  Though it took awhile, he's not pounding much anymore; his shot selection is vastly improved; his threes are almost always good, open shots now (instead of off-balance, last second heaves) and, most important, he's made himself a real leader by playing well in the open court, passing out of doubles, and driving when the team really needs a bucket -- even tho he's likely to get clobbered.  I love the way he's playing this year.

And while I still like Dun (and dislike Murph), and bear a residual concern that Jackson could well backslide, given his past incidents (including this Summer's trial -- for which I remain confident he'll cut a deal), it was obvious early on (regardless of what Jon Barry said) that the W's came out well in the trade.  And though AH has disappointed since he's NOT a "four" (though his shooting is nice), Jackson has shown terrific hands (on both offense and defense), great passing vision, and an ability to play at a very high level -- as long as he can control his emotions.  (Indeed, we haven't seen much lately of that horrid tendency to argue with refs on a non-call while his man breezes by him for an easy two.)

I give a great deal of the credit to the way the W's are playing to what I see is BD's growth and development as a TEAM player -- something I thought he lacked last year (and it bugged me, since it was obvious he was so talented).  But the real credit, I think, goes to Nellie, who has guided the process, made his key players feel at home, and generated a TEAM concept -- especially on the defensive end.  The team still has a fatal weakness in that we don't have a true "four" -- but this is now a fun team to watch, and watch develop.

So, can we just dispense with the rants?  

by johnl on Mar 22, 2007 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know
This, though I've consistently been critical of Murph and his -- in my opinion -- worthless double-doubles

I always used to be a TMurph fan. I thought the guy worked hard to add new tools to his game every offseason. He was very limited on defense- couldn't move laterally, couldn't block a shot any better than Mugsy Bogues, and had virtually no post up game- but I always thought his double doubles were valuable. You and I seemed to disagree on that.

But after seeing him struggle under Nellie and in Indy, I'm starting to think those were just empty stats on bad teams.

Im really curious to see how Troy will be doing 2 years from now. I get the feeling he just lost that fire after he got that big extension. There used to be something there, but now he just seems soft. Charmin' soft. It's too bad.

by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 22, 2007 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm you could have made it easier
and just said, hey, I think B.D.'s great, and Nellie's a big part of it.

That's all you had to say buddy. Now I see you have more logic than I thought a while ago.


If War brings Peace, Dubz' wit it then!

by gsdubz on Mar 22, 2007 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well. . .
I COULD have just spit out my opinion, but EVERYBODY's got an opinion.  What gives the opinion meaning, if anything, is the support predicated upon factual observation.  Saying BD's "great" this year has no real meaning in and of itself.  It imparts no knowledge, no meaningful observation -- simply states a subjective opinion.  To explain why one thinks he's "great" this year, though, requires thought -- not just emotion -- and constrains an attempt, at least, at analysis.  Then if one disagrees, fine, that's the primary purpose a site like this serves.  But, when one disagrees he/she is obligated intellectually to provide some support (not just volume, ad hominem attack or out-of-hand dismaissal or simple rage).  Atma and I have both agreed (e.g. we thot the W's should have drafted one of the available "threes" last year) and disagreed (e.g. whether Murph was productive last year; whether BD was productive last year) on a lot over the past year or so -- but when we disagree, we argue points and attempt to support our positions.  

For you, or anyone, to accuse (or "suspect" -- a euphemism for accusation) a poster (like me) who (1) critcized BD and defended MD last year or (2) expressed concern about whether Jackson could (and will) be able to play and live under control, when he's had (let's just say) more than one horrendous episode of being racist, reflects the worst kind of ignorance (and, strangely, a kind of reverse racism in its own way, since it presumes prejudice), because it not only ignores that facts, it attacks without any logic or support -- thereby changing the entire nature of the discussion from debate to rant.  And that serves no genuine purpose as far as I'm concerned (tho it may make the ranter feel temporarily self-impressed with his/her own 'rapier sharp' wit).

For me, the game is played on two levels -- the pure athletic beauty of the moment (which often focuses on the individual effort by some of the world's best athletes) and the more mundane (for some) strategic level that allows teams with unequal physical talent to play with those who are physically superior.  This latter aspect is what makes TEAM ball so critical: it can be the great equalizer.  (Every once in a while, you get teams with both -- for a few years, at least -- and we like to call them dynasties).  If you've been a W's fan for nearly 40 years, you realize there was only one stretch in that time -- for two years, in 1974-1976 -- when the team had truly superior physical talent.  Thus, to be a W fan is to recognize they CAN'T be very good UNLESS they accomplish a good team ball strategy.  For the first time since before Nellie left a dozen years ago, the W's are playing good team ball.  Last year (and for years before) they stunk at it.

So, when I criticized BD, Murph and others last year -- but BD, in particular -- it didn't mean I disliked them or wasn't a fan; rather, I was frustrated that a guy like BD, with so much physical talent and an obvious brain to go with it, couldn't realize he needed to change his game substantially if the team was ever going to get better.  I was still a fan -- but frustrated that so many so easily wanted to dump on Dun, who was NOT the primary problem, while contending BD shoulda been an All-Star or on Team USA (when Coach K didn't even want him near the team).  He simply didn't deserve it -- then.  He does, now.

So, I'm no more a W fan now than I was last year.  It's just more fun, because the team is playing the kind of basketball (e.g. TEAM defense) that I like -- and appreciate.  And when that happens, it's fun for me to analyze why and comment accordingly.  (For example, comparing AB's footwork and positioning this year to last is like night and day; if this kid isn't an All-Star in two or three years -- he's still only 20 -- I'll be stunned, since he's shown both great physical prowess -- those hands are money -- and great BBall smarts -- he's almost always in good position.)  Opinions -- at least unsupported opinions -- are worthless to anyone except the person expressing it who feels self-satisfaction in imparting emotion without thought or knowledge; it's the observation and analysis that can spark intelligent discourse, which is what we should be striving for here.  Right?  Isn't that really more fun, too, even where folks disagree?  

by johnl on Mar 23, 2007 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sensitivity
is a song by the great Ralph Tresvant. but i actually think sensitivity is the wrong word. people will disagree on this site and that is fine. but what's missing from this discussion is how people's disagreements and passions turn into pointless flamewars about "who's gay-er" or "who's a fag" (and i say this in critique of that type of dialogue for it's inherent homophobia and sexism and unproductive attitude)because they think one way or another. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but what i've noticed is that in several cases now, it tends to stray away from actual conversation about the topic into vicious assaults about someone's character. To claim innocence to a few comments @ Atma is one thing, but anyone who disagrees with you whether its about the warriors or about politics gets an inflammatory response that merely puts other people on the defensive. And this goes for everyone including myself. To say that's just the way you are is one thing, but sometimes just accusing folks of being "stupid" or "moronic" etc. etc. is just ... for a lack of a better word "not cool." You know what ensues is a boring back and forth about who's dumber, stupider, gay-er, etcc etc, which is something that you tend to see on other msg boards and fan sites. In all honesty, whats really at stake here? we're all geeks who sit by the computer all day checking scores, stats; what's the power in proving that putting Harrington at the 4 instead of the 3 really mean in the end? Its fun to talk about it on end, but our obsession for sports in my mind is equivalent to the the sorta nerdiness equivalent to magic cards. not that i think you are all nerds or anything, but really, what's the point in getting all hot and bothered about the Warriors?

by dj fuzzylogic on Mar 21, 2007 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree
I like your responses, they're always in the middle, that's good.  And to touch on what you're saying, I also agree with derogatory terms like about gays, or calling people stupid, or assaulting them, things which I don't think I am "known" to do, nor do I really recall having done it other than one time when I called someone a moron, and I apologized, even though others agreed cuz the person bashed Don Nelson about a play and then admitted he never even watched the game or saw the play.  

So if I don't do these things, why am I being targeted?


If War brings Peace, Dubz' wit it then!

by gsdubz on Mar 21, 2007 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

neutrality...
i often think is misnomer, cuz nothing is ever 'in the middle' but thats for a different discussion. the stuff about "gays" and "fags" is not directed at you, sorry if that came out as if you were the culprit. i actually don't think folks on this site stoop to that level, which is great. but i guess it was more for the purposee of saying that (for everyone) blowing up at people for disagreeing about minor details misses the point that we're all fans of a crappy team. and another thing, the so called belief in "freedom of speech" or that we're "censoring" people is basically legitimizing snarky language. accusing us of censoring people, i think misses the point. saying we don't let peopel say what they want is saying that we should just let anyone say whatever they want on the board even as it maybe rude and disrspectful. also, i have mentioned before, things don't translate well overh te internet and what is your general mode of communication might not necessarily be understood with someone sitting at the other end of the internet connection who only knows you from CAPS and !!!!, which on the internet mean something totally different than what is probably said in real life.

by dj fuzzylogic on Mar 21, 2007 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough loss last night...
Game highlights are up on Youtube.

by monta monta on Mar 21, 2007 9:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

SORRY, BUT...
I'm going to have to put SOME blame on this game on MONTA.  He was definitely a non-factor.  He made a bunch of (expletive) turnovers (as usual) and he couldn't get to the rim like usual!  He hung his head after those turnovers and never got it going!  His defense was suspect too, although the officiating wasn't the greatest.  If not for the other W's, we would have gotten blown out of the building, but it just goes to show, that we need everyone to contribute in order to WIN ballgames, especially on the road!  Sorry MONTA fans, but last night, he was anything but a PHENOM!
GO WARRIORS!!!

"If you build around them...they will come!"

by scottiepimppen on Mar 21, 2007 9:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey don't you know on this site
you have to blame the refs and not point out the obvious or you are a "hater"

by Zig on Mar 21, 2007 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not just monta
the whole bench didn't do it. the starting 5 won all the matchups.

jackson - 16 pts : AK47 - 12 pts
tmnt - 27 pts : boozer - 25 pts
AB - 10 pts : okur - 5 pts
j rich - 21 pts : d fish - 19 pts
baron - 20 pts : deron - 10 pts

our bench scored 4 pts... 4!!!
their bench scored 33.. 18 by millsap including that lucky ass 3 at the end.

there's the difference in the game. our bench sucked it up and their bench stepped up.

look for monta and pietrus to pick it up next game vs the wizards. warriors east don't play defense so i predict us putting up 120+ on GSOM night at the oracle!

by goldenchild on Mar 21, 2007 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If We Didn't Care, We Wouldn't Care

Bottom line is this franchise deserves far more criticism than any of us could ever come up with in ten years of "negative" posts. Need I remind anybody of the last decade plus? Of the terrible drafts? Of the dubious coaching choices? Of the complete lack of front office direction and competence?

These are all legitimate areas for complaint. As is the play of the team. These aren't some guys out for fun in a rec league or a pickup game -- these are millionaires getting treated like royalty to play a game. They should be open to the same type of criticism you and I get at our jobs or get when we publicly post comments.

The time for making excuses for this franchise are over. Yes, we've had a few bad calls go against us this year, but we've gotten a couple too. Yes, we've had some injuries, but so has just about every other team in the league.

Bottom line is the state of this team and franchise is nobody's fault but theirs. And Warriors fans are not helping the situation by blaming the refs, attacking each other, or cursing the gods for 12 years of bad luck.

Hold this owner, this front office, this coach (hey Nellie, how about fouling when down by two possessions with only 30 seconds left, huh?), and the players responsible, not angry posters or awesome web content editors.

It is totally legitimate and even desired to criticize this team, which currently sits five games below .500 and hasn't had a winning record in over a decade. Let's not fall into the trap the Republicans have laid for this country in which any criticism of our lord and savior Bush and his political toadies is decried as anti-American and pro-terrorist. People complaining about the war are doing it because they love this country and are worried about its future.

Same with the supposed Warriors "haters." People that complain about the Warriors, such as myself, do so because we love this team, live and die by this team, and truly want them to be successful.

Come together Warrior nation, come together, right now.

The TruthMaker www.sfist.com

by TruthMaker on Mar 22, 2007 12:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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