yes. Jrich has hit his ceiling as a ball player. Wings are easy to come by, and since we lack frontcourt players/depth, we need to be aggressive in our moves this offseason and get the help we need. With Jrich in the game, the ubz are way too perimeter oriented. Perimeter teams do not win games consistently. Look at Phoenix!! they are one of the best perimeter teams in the league (save for Amare), but they couldn't even make it to the Finals in any of their last 3 years.

The warriors need to get that #5 and use their own #18 on talented big men who can play, and play right now. if all they want is Jrich instead of Baron, then this is a steal.

Then this is a solid deal. While I'm not that sold on Yi as a prospect (I'd rather have Horford or Brewer), it is a much cheaper team so the extensions of Beans and Monta don't kill it all, and brings in an insanely high celing guy to eventually take over the 4-slot.

although, can we have gerald green too?  i don't know if ainge does this deal unless paul pierce wants JR.  he would want baron, but neither he nor JR would willingly go to boston to rebuild with pierce.  not with the warriors this close to postseason dynasty.  big time veterans don't have to report to their new teams.  they could sit out and force a trade to a better team.  although, JR would be up to the challenge, the celts have some talent in rondo, green and jefferson to go along with pierce.

on the Boston board...

heard that the initial offer of marion was turned down by the celtics, then the counter offer was turned down by the suns. the C's want to add sebastian telfair while the Suns want Delonte West. Although there are multiple teams that have made offers. the poster suggested that the suns deal might be a smokescreen to up the ante from another "better" deal for the C's...i wonder who and what team is offering a better deal than the suns...hhmmmm.

hopefully its the warriors, but i doubt it because everyone is worried about Baron's injury history.

Yes! More guns!

I love J-Rich as much as anyone else, but I like this trade.

i'm not for trading something already proven for something unproven. swap out j-rich for monta and i might be more willing

we know what he can do and honestly its not enough for the amount of money he gets paid.  yeah it sucks that he has given his all and actually wanted to be here all along but really he is lacking as a 2 guard.  i think the most glaring hole in his game is his lack of one on one defense.  i watched him closely during that utah series and he just couldnt keep his man in front of him leading to defensive break downs, even if that man was girecek or however you spell his name.  also guess who was guarding fisher when he kept getting in the lane. i think some of it has to do with his injuries but in a series of that importance he was awful.  plus hes like 6'3 maybe 6'4 on a good day.  

im not sold on yi, as he looks soft and floats on the perimeter to much but losing jrich's contract would be an added bonus.  

i don't follow the warriors all that much but...

jason richardson may have hit his ceiling but he's a very large reason the warriors made the playoffs and had major success against the mavs.

granted that having no big man was a weakness for the team against any other team besides dallas, but it was also the greatest strength of the team.  

i really don't see how this would really be all that beneficial to the celtics.  

it's true that j rich is signed thru 2010/11 but he is also overpaid. ratliff is overpaid moreso but only has 1 season left on contract.

i don't like a pierce/richardson pairing for long term (pierce is signed thru 2010/11).  

telfair is signed thru the next 2 seasons at bargain bin price...he's a keeper at his salary.  

vin baker just came off the books.  olowakandi is gone.  they are in good position salary cap wise and i think if i were a celtic fan, i'd want Yi or Joakim Noah (probably Yi)in the draft.

would try to get 2 of these free agents: Anderson Varejao, Devean George, Eduardo Najera, and Matt Barnes.

then again...the celtics are one of the worst managed teams and the warriors know that they can't get anywhere further with their current roster so anything is possible.

Are you KIDDING me? The Warriors should do this deal without BLINKING!

1. Complete salary relief of Richardson's contract, since both Telfair and Ratliff expire.
2. The off-chance Ratliff can provide even 10-15 minutes of shotblocking before he vanishes into cap space heaven for us.
3. The ability to RE-SIGN ELLIS AND BIEDRINS! You're not trading for Telfair, Yi, and Ratliff. You're trading for Telfair, Yi, Ratliff, Ellis, and Biedrins. Yeah, I think Richardson is worth that, he can take his dunk trophies with him.
4. 4 years of Yi Jianlian, potentially a stud at the 4 on a ROOKIE CONTRACT. That's how you come out ahead in the salary cap world: productive rookies. If you have VERY extremely productive rookies, then you're just swimming in gravy.
5. Instant mass revenue stream. Think of the cash that'll be rolling in from Yi jersey sales man! Cohan's tax problems will be solved and he might even be willing to go over the cap to re-sign Baron in a couple years! W00t w00t! We can sign Arenas, and even Kobe and Garnett!! We'll be UNSTOPPABLE, BABY!!!

Take the deal. Re-sign Azubiuke, who as a starter/20+ minute player was highly, highly effective. Draft Nick Young if you can (failing that, Sean Williams or Tiago Splitter, one of those 3 will be there) in the first, then McGuire and Dudley in the second. DONE!

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All that said, this deal won't happen. At all. #5 pick (potentially Horford, Brewer, B. Wright, or NOah, not just Yi), PLUS a shitload of expiring contracts is probably enough to land Jermaine O'Neal (if the Pacers were bright, they'd send O'Neal for that package and a couple extra youngsters like Gerald Green or Rajon Rondo or even Delonte West and Tony Allen)...it's probably going to be enough to land Marion...if the T-Wolves ever grow a pair, it'd be good value for Garnett, or Gasol, or...well...

boston should be able to trade for any established star, they have the pieces to get it done. There's no reason for them to settle for Richardson, especially when their biggest needs are point guard (Jason Kidd!) or center (Jermaine).

if Sam Smith said it and its about the Warriors, its pretty much guaranteed not to go down, cause the guy finds his rumors where the sun dont shine.  In all seriousness I don't know if this a good idea because its possible Yi will get grabbed before the 5th pick (its the draft anything could happen).  Id rather wait untill after the draft then swing a deal with the Celtics.

What if for some reason Yi goes at 3 to Atlanta?  What would we do then at 5?

Regardless, it is time to move J-Rich to create salary savings to extend AB and or Monta if one or isn't moved over the summer or before the trade deadline in February.

This is the first draft "trade-up" that does make sense to me.  Dollars and cents.  Because I agree with what many folks wrote that J-Rich has contributed about as much as he can.

I almost feel like a lot of these posts are coming from peeps who just jumped on the bandwagon halfway through the season while Richardson was hurt. I know that's not true, don't mean to offend anybody, but can we stretch our memories back a little bit? Remember last season, when JR willed his sad-sack Baron-less team to victories, while scoring more points than anyone not on the All-Star team? Does anyone think about the fact that he's one of the best rebounding 2-guards in the league? What about the fact that, with the exception of this past season because of injuries, he comes back every year a much improved player because of his hard work in the off-season? And he's still a few years from his prime?

I don't buy the idea that he's "hit his ceiling". If getting knee surgery is hitting your ceiling, then sure. He is a bit overpaid, that argument I can live with. But we're simply not going to be nearly as good without him. Whatever project player we would select at #5 is not going to step in and replace him, and Monta isn't ready to be The Man. JR's proven that he already is.

I've had Warrior season tickets for 10 years.  My wife and I love J-Rich.  Although I'm relatively new to GSoM, I don't think one's opinion, mine or anyone's per se, can be qualified or quantified by playing the "bandwagon" card.  It is a non-sequitor to suggest that if someone is new to supporting the Warriors they don't know about the heart of J-Rich.

I've seen many posts about the business end of sports, obviously including basketball.  When people suggested J-Rich had reached his "ceiling", I assume they were referring to his salary and the role it could play in meeting some of our longer range needs.  In other posts J-Rich has been discussed as the centerpiece to getting AK47.  In fact, there are many discussions about J-Rich being our most expendable asset to address unmet needs.

But what all of that has to do with 'bandwagon' I have no idea.  Can you explain the relationship between playing the bandwagon card and having a good discussion of how our team can potentially get better. J-Rich is a critical part of that discussion and that doesn't mean he is deeply valued and "loved" by the Warrior Nation.

Might not come over this year thanks to his buyout issues. If it exceeds $750k or whatever, it won't be worth it for him to come over (for HIM because he pays it, we can only contribute a limited amount).

And he'll be there at 18 or so.

telfair is garbage, delonte or rajon yes.

i'm willing to part ways with Richardson if it gives us the chance to resign Monta and Beans while giving us a shot at a great opportunity in Jianlian.

rumor ever come true? this isn't happening

this deal happens also.

i like richardson..loyalty is nice and all, but im still an advocate for getting the best player available while improving on team needs. I just don't understand the love for Jrich as a basketball player. He clearly has numerous holes in his game. The love as a person, i get. If we can rid ourselves of his contract while making the team better, then we have to do it. If we can't then we should keep him. the only thing i regret with richardson is that he wasn't our second round pick in 02' instead of, what was his name?...Gilbert something??

Al Horford is left on the board. We take him 5th and possibly trade down from 18 to get Thaddeus Young.