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New GSoM Poll: Most Untouchable Warrior

Post Pacers' heist, the 2007 Golden State Warriors were an extremely fun team to watch. I don't think you'll find any Warrior fan or even NBA fan that thinks differently. However, there seems to be plenty of difference in opinion amongst GSoMers (the most intelligent Warrior junkies on this planet) about who's the most untradeable Warrior. Some aren't willing to part with Boom Dizzle and that crazy beard. Some aren't willing to part with JRich or Die Flying. Some aren't willing to part with the youth in Andris "Good Ivan Drago" Biedrins and Monta Ellis to the Rim! Some aren't willing to let Action Jackson leave the Yay. Some don't want to see TMNHarrington go. But let's see what the consensus is here at the golden spot- vote or die on another great GSoM front page poll.

Which of these Warriors should be the most untouchable in trade discussions?

  • Baron Davis
  • Jason Richardson
  • Stephen Jackson
  • Al Harrington
  • Andris Biedrins
  • Monta Ellis

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Biedrins
with Baron a very close second.  If Baron leaves, we can always still hope Monta develops into a point guard and we still have other scorers on the team, maybe not as clutch as Baron, but we still have scorers.

If Biedrins leaves and we don't get a decent big man to replace him, we'll have absolutely nobody to rebound and nobody to defend the rim.  He's crucial to this roster as it is right now.

by jlagace on Jun 15, 2007 12:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

this is easy.....
todd fuller, absolutley untouchable....actually, prolly agree w/ beans

by dnalvare on Jun 15, 2007 12:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no one will agree
but i say jrich because hes the heart of the warriors in my opinion

by llamalimbo1 on Jun 15, 2007 1:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I definitely agree
JRich is definitely the heart of the Warriors.
Nellie's the brains.
Monta's the legs.
Biedrins' the hair.
Harrington's the bald head.
Stephen Jackson can be the mouth.
Baron's the beard.
etc

by jlagace on Jun 15, 2007 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and
together they form Voltron! er, i mean, the Warriors!
Ronald Reagan was a jerk.

by Nooob on Jun 15, 2007 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IMO
NOBODY is untouchable.  I would get over parting with any Warrior depending on what we get in return.

by ssmokinjoe on Jun 15, 2007 1:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

...with that said...
I would hate to lose JRich most of all, just because he's my favorite Warrior and for all the time and effort he has put into this team and into his game.

by ssmokinjoe on Jun 15, 2007 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

im goin to agree
with Biedrins.  The only way i'd get rid of him is if we package him with somebody else and we are getting KG or something similar.  I love monta and all but a sg is a dime a dozen.

by djchuckdeez on Jun 15, 2007 2:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

keep biedrins
THEY CALL ME THE CUTE BOY

by jeppalepala on Jun 15, 2007 7:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone but Harrington
In this order I think we need to keep:
Biedrins
Jackson
Davis
Richardson
Ellis

Everyone above is absolutely tight about Biedrins. Replacing him would be nearly impossible and would set the franchise back again.

Stephen Jackson is one of those rare players like Ron Artest and Shawn Marion. Long, tough and with just enough of a chip on his shoulder (OK, in his and Artest's cases the chip could be a hell of a lot smaller for my taste) to take defense personally. Stronger than Tayshon Prince, bigger than Bruce Bowen, guys like this are nearly priceless. We need him to guard Nowitski.

Baron Davis is one of the top 5-7 PGs in the league and we aren't getting Nash or Kidd or Chris Paul back in a trade so we need Baron. Plus, he and Stephen Jackson work REALLY well together, especially on defense.

JRich...Man it would be tough to lose him. But replacing a SG, even one as awesome as JR, is far easier than replacing a C or a PG. If he was traded with Harrington and Pietrus for KG I think I'd be OK with it.

Ellis is going to be really good, and he reminds me a bit of a young Arenas with his head screwed on straight. But who knows? Now might be a time to get great value for him.

HOWEVER, what I do think we NEED to do is to include Harrington in a sign-and-trade with Pietrus and get a real PF while Harrington's value is high. I really feel like he is a perimeter player and an underachiever who played over his head last season. If the two of them (plus our pick and/or POB) brought in KG or Rasheed Wallace or someone like that...all would be right with the world.

by McJ on Jun 15, 2007 9:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

imo
biedrins
davis
richardson
ellis
jackson
harrington

in that order from most untouchable to least.

by AJC3317 on Jun 15, 2007 10:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

its' not even CLOSE
Question: Who is the only Warrior to play in every single game?

Answer: ANDRIS BIEDRINS.

Yup, Latvia was present for all 82 regular season games. You can't say that for Baron Davis (LOL!), Monta Ellis, or Jason Richardson. I'll leave the new Warriors out since they only had half the season here.

He was the most valuable Warrior last year, and will be the most valuable Warrior for a long while:

  1. Durability. By my knowledge, he's never been injured. Man, of all teams, we should know how important that is, right?
  2. Youth/Upside. He's, what, 21? 22? He's become a legit shot-changer and is demonstrating a better sense of how to react in the paint offensively and defensively. The post game is coming along nicely, to the piont now where I'd trust him with the ball in the post, alone, against most other PF/C's in the league for 3-4 possessions a game. How many big men these days could you throw the ball to inside the paint and say, "score"? How many of those big men do everything else well enough you could start them (that rules out Diogu, Powe, Sweetney...)
  3. Attitude. Heart. For all this love Richardson get for being loyal to the organization...Biedins is sorely underrated. Biedrins patiently sat on the bench under Monty while crap like Murphy and Foyle got burn at the center position, and this year, after winning the job early on, did not complain at all when he was asked to come off the bench for Nellie's uber-small ball with Harrington at C. Then in the playoffs, when he was needed to change things up against the Mavs, he suited up in the starting lineup and was ready and willing to play. By all accounts, Biedrins is extremely coachable, and worked hard to learn the offense, and became the perfect target for Baron Davis and Stephen Jackson's interior passes. Perfect team player here guys.
  4. Fit. Biedrins would be excellent in any stem, but he's completely and utterly perfect for Don Nelson's system. Perfect. He doesn't demand the ball, but when you give it to him, he converts at a 60% clip. He cuts sharply off the pick and roll, knows his role, and has an excellent sense of timing and spacing. How often have we seen a Warrior charge into the lane, finding a collapsing defense, then finding Biedrins flashing under the bucket? It's such a simple thing, but big men think they don't need to cut sometimes. Biedrins always seems to be int he right place at the right time. He's also fast enough to run the floor (see: Statue of Liberty on Dallas) in our offense and quick enough to play in our scramble defense. He does a great job of "hedging" guards on while playing the pick and roll, reacts quickly in the paint to block shots. On top of all that, he seems to be becoming a pretty good passer as well.
Not enough? He was a force last year and only cost us his rookie contract (and will be on that for another year IIRC).

Latvia for life.

by OptionZero on Jun 15, 2007 6:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta Keep These 4
Baron(the general), J-Rich(the heart), Jax(the D), and Biedrins(the hustle) should all be untouchable. The W's should try to keep Azibuke, Barnes, Powel & Ellis if possible. I wanna see what Chewbarkaba (if he's healthy) can do with this style of offense, so we should keep him too. As for Harrington, Pietrus, Foyle & the rest of the BWC (that's Bench Warming Crew), get rid of them and replace them with a veteran PF, a solid backup PG, & 2 of the 3 drat picks.

by Bake Da Ripper on Jun 16, 2007 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

IS EVERYONE BLIND
BARON DAVIS IS UNTOUCHABLE AND HE IS THE TEAM non of the other warriors can lead the team, if baron didnt come back from his injuries the warriors would have to wait another damn year for the playoffs and non of the other warriors can lead the team and monta is not even close to the level baron is on monta cant carry the warriors to the playoffs

by gswLLBatman on Jun 16, 2007 2:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Injuries"
Is the key word in your post. You're right that he's our best player and the heart and soul of the team, but he hasn't had a fully healthy season in five years; and the knee/leg stuff he's had isn't the type of thing that usually gets better as you enter your late 20s. It is extremely risky to have the whole franchise riding on one player's extremely shaky knees.

Obviously BD did a lot in the last two months to silence all the doubters, but it's still just two months. If you factor in age, $$$, and durability, I think there's no question Biedrins is the most untouchable guy on the team.

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 16, 2007 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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