You gotta love a guy that plays his heart out, which for many reasons renders him inactive or disabled or injured for stretches of the season.  I think our team has a big enough problem with oft-injured high priced players.

Also, I haven't seen him play much, but i heard he's a great defender.  I guess it just seems weird that we would trade Jrich for another player of the similar calibre (but different skill sets).  

From what I understand, if we want Wallace (or anybody who'll demand more than the MLE) we have to get him in a sign-and-trade, presumably using our $10mil traded player exception. I want Wallace as much as anyone, but is it really plausible that Charlotte agrees to a S&T with GS, shortly after they made the deal that sent the exception to us in the first place?

Maybe so. Maybe Dream Teammates Mullin and Jordan planned it out this way: GS sends JRich to the Cats for the #8, and then sends Monta + $10 trade exception for Wallace? Hell, the Cats already axed Brevin Knight, so they're suddenly in the market for a backup PG. Another player will have to be involved, as the $10 mil exception can't be combined with another player in a trade, but maybe Monta is traded for 2nd rounder Davidson? This is all baseless theorizing, but Mullin will have to get a little creative if Wallace is the target. And it sounds like MJ wants to keep him anyway.

I say go for Wallace...hopefully at 8-9 per year. No more than 10. Jrich was 12 per right? There would be mutiny if Wallace got that. Then we could offer Minnesota Ellis, Harrington, Foyle, and a 1st rounder for Garnett. You may say that the Wolves would never take this, but there are only a few teams with the assests for a Garnett deal, and even fewer actually want him. Would they really risk losing him for nothing? Plus, Ellis is a good prospect, albeit one who I feel is expendable, Harrington is decent, relatively inexpensive, and I feel could easily be traded for a pick. Foyle looks bad, but think of it like this: the Wolves, unless they are more retarded than we thought, are not looking to be contenders again for at least a few years. Next year he would be a burden for their cap, but the year after, he would be an expiring contract, something that is a powerful chip to have. If the Wolves rejected this, there is a good chance if we dealt Ellis and Foyle together, most likely for very little in return. Would at least get rid of salary.

but it's not realistic.  he's gonna want too much $$ and that would prevent us from keeping monta and AB.  if he's gonna command jrich money - $10 mil a season, we should've just kept jrich.

i'm thinking that artest could be out there for the taking.  maybe sign and trade for MP and some scraps (cabbage, POB)?

The team doing the trading usually doesn't get much talent back. The FA's original team is used solely to circumvent the salary cap restrictions of his new team.

Offhand, I can't remember a sign and trade where the old team got real talent (at least at the time- wierd stuff always happens like Ben Wallace becoming a stud when he was merely a good roleplayer before
the Grant Hill trade). if anyone remembers trades where this wasn't the case, please share.

Bringing in Wallace would certainly be a better long-term move than Garnett. While he's no where the talent of KG, he'll be great longer and wouldn't be nearly the salary anchor.

For Ellis and Biedrins...Ellis would most certainly have to be traded since Cohan will not go over the luxury tax cap. I think the best plan would be to trade Ellis for a top draft pick next year (Sacramento's pick looks really juicy).

Going into the offseason, we'd then have our first rounder, the Ellis-trade first rounder, and Adonal Foyle, a $9M expiring contract (no one's picking up his team option). That should be more than enough to trade into the top 5, where talents like Derrick Rose (6'3, power PG like Baron, Memphis) and O.J. Mayo (6'5 mini-Lebron, USC) will likely go.

A couple things about Wallace:
He's about the opposite of Richardson.

Wallace doesn't have much of a jumper and doesn't get his points from the perimeter. All his scoring is moving off ball, slashing to the basket, and off putbacks and transition buckets. He doesn't have 3 point range.

While he's a spectacular weakside shotblocker and steals guy, I don't know if he's necessarily a lockdown type individual defender like Prince, Bowen, and Artest...but in Nelson-style basketball, freakshow team defenders are probably more valuable.

At 6'7, he can spot minutes at PF as well.

I haven't heard anything on his passing, but I know he also isn't a individual ball-handler that will create himself.

On the upside, he's only 24, so he has years of production ahead of him.

Regarding his second-half production...sure, he did better later in the season, but this isn't really his only season as a stud. His '05-'06 was actually better than last year by PER (21 v 19).

Unfortunately, he can't shoot FT's either.

In sum, I think he's Michael Pietrus who has figured out how to use his skills (which says alot).

Go for it, mully is very crafty with salaries as weve seen, I say get him with our exception. Mully would make MJ look like a moron by getting Wallace and Wright for j-rich at the same cost.

But I doubt the Warriors have what it takes to outbid the Bobcats, they're some $20million under the cap right now even with the addition of JRich's contract.

I doubt the Bobcats would let their starting SF just walk away either, trading for JRich shows they want to be a competitive team now and Morrison just isn't ready to start at SF yet.  Gerald Wallace has also already stated he wouldn't mind going back to Charlotte.  The Warriors' plan may have just backfired a little because sending JRich to the Bobcats may have made them a more attractive bidder to Wallace now.

The only scenario I could see Wallace not being a Bobcat next year is if they choose to pursue Lewis instead.  Otherwise, I can't see them getting outbid for Wallace when they have the most money to spend and no other SF options out there.

I just got to say that Mark Cuban is a slimey bastard. He is the Paris Hilton of the NBA. What kind of man is this? He is trying to assassinate Nelson's glory. If it werent for Don Nelson, the Mavericks would have NOTHING. Nelson saved them from the depths, and brought a winningness to their franchise, just as he resurrected us. Who acquired Nowitzki? Who drafted Josh Howard? Who developed all their young talent and was resposible for so many winning seasons? AND who seasoned and mentored a coach like Avery Johnson, who will be great for them for a long, long time?
Nelson did it.
AND THEN he had the nerve to try and sue Nelson out of some money..what a rich jerk...after Cuban had that record season, he thought it was going to be his year. We shattered his little dream. After the series, instead of congradulating Nellie and taking it on the chin like a man, he folded his arms and pouted like a child. He cried himself to sleep like a little bitch. He moaned and wailed, hanging all over Dirk's shoulder.
The fact that he is STILL not letting this go, and trying to build ammunition against a great guy like Nellie, shows how poor a character he really is. His integrity is a joke, and I hope this all comes back to haunt him and his children's children's children! He needs to go.

if we can't land kg it would be nice to have wallace. i'm also worried about monta and andris tho if we sign him.

in getting him with out giving up baron, monta, wright, or andris.  then just tell cohan to suck it up and pay the luxury tax.  its not like we can't sign monta and biedrins, its just that we're assuming cohan won't pay the tax.  i don't think everyone knows that.

COHAN! ANTE UP!

sidenote, saw Nellie at the A's game a couple weeks ago rocking a Mavs hat. very funny.

One problem with Gerald Wallace is that he fills the same mold as Stephen Jackson.

That being said, if we acquire Wallace, how is our lineup going to look like?  I believe that both Wallace and Jackson are too slow to be playing SG in  a Nellieball fashion.  Also, I'm sure if either can play the PF position as well.  Sure, SJax was assigned to do it against Dirk in the playoffs, but what about against traditional post PFs?

i woudlnt mind having him

GWallace had a great season but the guy has been injuryprone his whole career. A surer thing is what is needed, like trading Harrington, BWright, Jask and Foyle, throw in a resigned Pietrus or O'bryant to TWolves, Garnett to Phoenix and Amare and Banks to Warriors