AK.

I love his talent and as others have said, I think he'd be a perfect fit for Nellieball.

The likelihood of us making a move though, i'm unsure about.

Giving up just the players you mentioned above would be great. Those three are Impact forwards, like you said and although they aren't quite as good as KG, I would prefer to get one of those three. This is because:

1. They are all considerably younger
   
2. We would have to give us much less to get them
   
3. Their contracts are considerably better
   
4. We wouldn't rely on them as much as we would with KG and they are more team players and better fits into our system (AK47 and Matrix more than Elton Brand).
   

Another forward who would do well in Oakland would be Josh Smith. Plus, his contract is much smaller (although we would have to extend it soon, of course) and he is younger than those three.

That I made up a possible trade on the ESPN Trade Machine.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2427~2751~308~2813~3019~434~396~2411&t eams=1~1~26~26~1~9~26~9&te=&cash=

If this trade happened, I would want Wright to be given up and not Biedrins. I had to select Biedrins in the machine because Wright can't be included until August 6th.

We would definitely benefit from that trade, getting Smith and Kirilenko - Two excellent forwards - without having to give up too much (just Wright, Ellis, Jasikevicius, AL and POB.
Utah are looking to shop AK47 and they would be happy with Al, A 2nd round pick (although I couldn't include that on the machine) and Sarunas (and Johnson - a salary filler). My only doubt would be Atlanta accepting this but I think they would accept POB, Ellis and Wright for Smith.
If this is a problem; we could of course make it just a 2-way trade with Utah for AK47.

Line-up next season (presuming Atlanta don't agree to the trade)
PG: Baron/Pierce (sign for minimum wage)
SG: Ellis, Belinelli
SF: Jackson, Azubuike, Powell(sign)
PF: AK47, Wright
C: Biedrins, Foyle, POB

In my opinion, with that team we could do well next season.
This all, just an idea and it is not even a trade rumor. If you disagree with it then please say so and give your reasons. I didn't feel it deserved it's own diary because I have not been on GSoM for long and I want to gain experience before posting a diary.

This was the first trade idea I have posted on GSoM and I guess I didn't think it through enough. I tried to consider what it would mean for Utah and I thought that Harrington and Jasikevicius would fit in well there. I thought Atlanta might be happy with Ellis, POB and Wright for Smith. I am quite new on GSoM and yes, next time I need to think trades through more before posting them; I admit that the trade I made up wasn't fair on the other teams.

never happen...the pacers would be the Warriors from early 2000's if a JO trade was made...unless....it becomes a 3 way deal with the warrior players going to the third team instead of the Pacers.   BRING JO TO THE BAY!!

We need Josh Smith period. We give you monta, Patrick O' Bust and Foyle for him. It a good trade for both team. They get big while we get a Freak of nature waiting to blow up.

about 13 years ago all the Dubs needed was an impact PF.  Nelson tried to please the fans by making moves that would push them over the top...well we all know how that turned out.  Now that KG is officially off the market the Dubs can't afford to go off half cocked just to get a PF that's good on paper.  For instance grabbing AK-47 is a preposterous idea. He is crap on Offense and is only good on help D.  He can rebound but, he costs a fortune.  He is simply not worth the $.  Josh Smith might be a good addition, but how are we going to swing that deal?  Trading Monta would be like getting rid of Mitch Richmond back in the day. Bad Idea!   The Dubs should grab Gooden if possible.  He is cheap (relatively) and has only 2 years on his contract.  Varejo will cost a fortune and is not good enough to spend a fortune on. Adding Gooden will give us depth at the 4/5 spot, won't cost us a fortune and we can use his expiring contract to make a trade next season. We can also pay Barnes what he deserves and kick Pietrus to the curb--let him play for Miami, good riddance.

...ends up the first comment on?  mike, you don't have to watch SO closely, everyone's over you.

I really truly hate to say it, but I think we really need Anderson Varejao.  I hate his hair, I hate his flopping, I hate his sloppy uncoordinated offensive tomfoolery, but he's exactly what the Warriors need.  He's a good defender, he's a big body in the defensive post, and he's a good rebounder.  We'll probably be able to get him easily without giving anything up too.

I still really want to acquire Jason Williams.

I think the depth chart could look a little something like this:

PG Baron / JWill
SG Monta / Belinelli / Azubuike
SF SJax / Barnes
PF Varejao / Wright
C Biedrins / Harrington / Perovic

Jermaine O'Neal? We can't let the Lakers get him. Too bad I don't think the Pacers will trade with us ever again.

from what i remember i thought he was rumored to be on the trading block as recently as Jan this year (when West was still GM); i thought it was something about him being disgruntled and wanting to "play for a contender" - does the signing of Conley change the equation?

What's the take on Gasol? He seemed to be fully recovered from an early season fractured foot and started dropping his usual solid numbers towards the end of last season; there was a five game streak near beginning of Feb where he averaged 34.2 points, 11.8 rebounds, 4.8 blocks - downright monstrous and quite mmm... KGesque?

how's he feeling about Memphis lately?  would he fit w/GS? what/who would it cost us or is it even financially doable?

imo if it were doable, i'd get Gasol in the mix over any of our 'potentials' save Monta (just because we'd be thin on guards)

originally posted by thewarriorsrule

its nice to be optimistic, but i would rather have a shot at a championship in the next 2 or 3 years than have 5 or 6 years of okay basketball.  baron is only going to get older and nellie will soon retire, and since we made it to the semifinals last year, u don't want to make a step backward, u want to get better than that.  i am tired of hoping to see our rookies and potential pan out!  i want superstars now!  haha.  i knew that last year might have been their best shot at winning a championship and its all downhill from here.  haha.  i have faith in wright being a good player too, but that's 2 to 3 years from now, and baron may be done by then.  what's next?  the ellis and biedrins era?  i don't think any of these guys will be superstars in the future.  here is the new dream and most feasible scenario:

pg - baron/jack/pierce
sg - ellis/bellinelli/azubuike
sf - jackson/barnes/posey
pf - harrington/wright/powell
cc - biedrins/gooden/kosta

   1. using the exception, get drew gooden.  he will be rejuvenated playing in his hometown and in nellie's system - he can be great here.  this also gives us flexibility and depth in our pf and c positions: harrington, wright, and gooden can all play these two positions in nellie's system.
   2. sign and trade pietrus for posey.  we get a solid veteran who plays good defense and can knock down the 3 from more than one area.
   3. we sign a backup pg - jarrett jack anyone?  perhaps trade pob?
   4. resign barnes to 10 mil & 3 years
   5. buyout foyle's contract.

we are 3 deep at each position now!  we'll have extra depth and we'll run run run!  i'll say not good enough for a championship, but a solid team behind the western conference powers of san antonio, phx, dallas...

thrilled about is the ak deal.  if we can give up basically just harrington that would be nice.

I think we must aim at bringing back Gil in a year.  I would let Baron walk in favor of Arenas.

Gil/Monta
Belenelli
Jackson
Wright
Biedrins

With KG now going to the East, is it worthwhile to keep Baron for the rest of the year or try and trade him now?

Gathering more pieces to center around our big 4 might not be a bad deal. although finding a team willing to take Baron would be a challenge. Outside of Boston i can't think of any team (pre-KG trade although, which now makes them as a possibility next to zero).

Maybe: Atlanta

realistically i can see a trade of

Baron for Childress, Shelden Williams, Zaza, and LoWright.

We get 2 young guys and two expiring contracts. Not an ideal trade but something to think about

http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4150326

or maybe Orlando:

Baron for Jameer, J.J., Hedo, and Tony Battie.

Not as reaslistic as the first (but both are pretty far fetched) but works out. I'm not sure we'd take on Hedo and Battie's contracts since they have 2 years left either.

In fact now i doubt this is even a good trade at all for the warriors--hey i'm just throwing out ideas.

http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4150344

Maybe even Cleveland looks to reload for another Post season run:

Baron for Gibson, Gooden, Snow, and Newble.

http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4150365

Just ideas though. I wouldn't mind trading Baron now, instead of letting him walk, but i wouldn't want to take on any longterm deals to keep us from a big FA splash in 08'. Shoot i would've been up for a trade with Boston before KG landed there with Theo, Powe, Green and Telfair. That would have been my first choice deal. Now for this offseason i would like us to grab a young athletic wing not named Pietrus or Barnes and hopefully obtain either Gooden or Varejao. I'd rather take Andy though but for a reasonable price (say 3 years and 15 million?). That way we wouldn't be biting the luxary tax bullet for too long.

Yea, I said it - I think the Warriors should pursue injury-prone, long-contracted Bobby Simmons.

Will they? Not a chance - with three years and $30-million left on his deal, he's got a J-Rich like contract and can't necessarily do what J-Rich done did.

Should they? I'd consider it because they might maybe be able to get Yi out of it as well, which is why I even thought of this. With all that drama going down in Beer Town, maybe just maybe they'll get over it and just move Yi for the right package.

It's really a simple move that doesn't require the exception or anything - just trade Al Harrington for the draft rights to Yi Jianlian and Bobby Simmons. The Warriors would have Yi, Simmons, Brandon Wright, and capspace to show for Troy Murphy and Jason Richardson.

Milwaukee would have to consider it. Now that they've brought Mason back, Simmons might be a $9-million bench player and I'm sure they'd love to cut their losses on that deal now. Harrington gives them a much-needed body down low for when Bogut becomes a weenie (as he has done in some games) and Villanueva plays so far away from the basket that he gets nosebleeds.

The Bucks would then fill in the rest of their gaps with half MLE deals to Ruben Patterson and Brevin Knight, and their suddenly kind-of-solid lineup would be:

Mo Williams / Brevin Knight / Lyn Greer
Michael Redd / Charlie Bell
Desmond Mason / Ruben Patterson / David Noel
Charlie Villanueva / Al Harrington
Andrew Bogut / Jake Voskuhl / Dan Gadzuric

On to the Warriors .. I would then sell POB to someone for a second rounder and some cash considerations (CBA allows $3-million to exchange hands) in the same fashion that Phoenix got rid of James Jones since Yi and Brandan Wright can both play center (sort of .. but this is Nellie, so whatever).

With the cash that the Warriors get from selling POB, you give part of your MLE up to Kosta as a situational, rebounding center. I say that because he's more mobile than Adonal (although I've heard Adonal has lost weight). You then use the rest of the MLE on a one-year deal for Matt Barnes.

Baron Davis / Monta Ellis / Sarunas Jasikevicius
Stephen Jackson / Marco Belinelli
Bobby Simmons / Mickael Pietrus  
Yi Jianlian / Matt Barnes / Brandan Wright / Stephane Lasme
Andris Biedrins / Kosta Perovic / Adonal Foyle

Does Simmons have his issues? Yea, for sure, but when healthy he's still a very good player. He can do everything on the court - including rebound and carry the ball - which makes him a player that could thrive (and probably would thrive) in Nellie's system with all that versatility. It is a huge risk considering his injury, but you've got insurance on that with Barnes, Jack, Pietrus, and even Yi all ready and willing to play that position. Plus, the risk brings in Yi, who should be a fun addition to a team that would know how to use him - and could he eventually be a superstar?

The deal is a nice bridge between winning now and holding out for the future. Keeping your prospects can get you an aging superstar (KG) or it can lead to great success (Bulls, who are on the brink of something special this season - mark my words). Most importantly, the Warriors would still have their exception and a BUNCH of young talent to make other moves down the line. That kind of flexibility is hot .. right fellas?

Oh, and did I mention you guys get Yi?