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2k6-2k7 REPORT CARD: Adonal Foyle


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The longest tenured Warrior is now gone. Adonal Foyle, you will be missed, not for your basketball skills, but for the energy you brought back into the arena during blowouts. The game could be out of hand and people might be leaving for the exits, but you were always ready for those last 2 minutes of glory. With the crowd chanting "We want Foyle", the people in the aisles heading for the exits would stop and turn hoping to catch a glimpse of your skills. I've never seen a bench player consistently receive so much good will from the crowd. We all wanted you to do well and here's hoping that you do well in Boston, Orlando, or where ever it is you may go.


Foyle's patented move: Make your face look like the ball

Adonal was the man at Colgate U. So much so, that we picked him over some random high schooler whose name sounds like a McDonalds sandwich, McGravy. Looks like we made the right move, since over their careers, our guy has more blocks and a higher field goal percentage.

Is this true? Adonal Foyle has never attempted a 3 point shot in a regular season game? His Yahoo player profile shows him taking 0. I find that hard to believe since he works on that half court shot all the time. I just figured he shot out there because the three point line was too easy for him.

Anyways, our grades for the GOAT after the jump...

Star-divide


Even though 2 of the greatest centers battle each other on the court…


They’re still great friends off of it.

Adam Lauridsen (Fast Break)  

Grade: B-
The Warriors' human victory cigar. "We Want Foyle!" rolling through the Arena crowd always meant the Warriors had taken care of business. His game never really fit Nellie's master plan but he couldn't have been a better teammate and member of the community. If only we weren't paying him $9 million next year to be such a nice guy.

Fun Score: 8
His kung fu kick was an essential part of the team's pregame rituals.

Atma Brother #1  

Grade: F
Nellie asked Adonal to do just a few things when he put him in- rebound the ball, try to block every shot, and set good picks- of which he did none. If Foyle worked hard on his game and improved during the past in the 9 seasons he wouldn't be in this predicament, but he didn't so he is. I wonder if anyone's dumb enough to trade for him and the remaining $19+ million left on his deal (ahem, Larry Bird, Donnie Walsh, Danny Ainge, Mitch Kupchak, and Kevin McHale we're looking at you). Citizen Foyle's an awful NBA player, but a great guy.

Fun Score: 10
It must be really embarrassing for the other team when they hear those "We want Foyle!" chants. The entire arena's basically chanting "(insert team city) sucks!".

DJ Fuzzylogic  

Grade: C+
I feel bad for the guy. In preparation for Nellie ball, Foyle lost enough weight you would have thought he was on Extreme Makeover. Yet, he just didn't have the prerequisites to really find a place in the rotation. But, how bad can you feel for a guy who's making 7-8 million dollars a year reading to kids and being POB's mentor? I guess we should be more sad for POB.

Fun Score: 10
Because he’s Foyle.

Fantasy Junkie  

Grade: F
Rather than get an A for Adonal, he gets an F for Foyle. Talk about a drain on your salary cap! The only time I enjoy seeing him in the game is if we're up by 20 with 3 minutes to go. Then I feel good chanting "We Want Foyle!" Other than that, he's just an overpaid cheerleader.

Fun Score: 5
Because that’s how many minutes $9 million dollars averages per game

Hash  

Grade: C
DEMOCRACY NOW! Basketball second... I only gave him a C because a: He's a nice guy. I fear Zorgons wrath.

Fun Score: 0
There’s nothing funny about how much money we wasted on Foyle riding the pine this year.

YaoButtaMing

Grade: C-
How can I flunk the nicest guy on the team? What he does for the community warrants a C-.

Fun Score: 10
Best looking guy on the team

Overall Grade: D+

Also see: 2005-2006 REPORT CARD: Adonal Foyle


And you thought Tony Parker had a nice teardrop runner

Take a look back at some of the GSoM articles on Foyle:

Goodbye Adonal. It was great having you on the team. Not because of your basketball skills, but because there was always someone to get excited about during blowouts.

What grade would you give Adonal Foyle?



2006-2007 GSoM Report Cards

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Well he gets an A for having a lot of heart, the guy trained his ass off for Nellie and lost a lot of weight to be more nimble even though, in the back of his mind, he knew he wouldn't see much PT.  But when he was on the court he never really did much, I guess I'll miss him as a person but not as player

by djchuckdeez on Aug 20, 2007 9:55 AM PDT reply actions  

A for
relieving us of 34% of Mullin's mistake.

by racsan on Aug 20, 2007 10:21 AM PDT reply actions  

C for his presence
He was only the 4th most remembered person in the ak-47 dunk. "Look at the reaction of veteran Adonal Foyle from the bench."

by warriorgirl on Aug 20, 2007 10:34 AM PDT reply actions  

this grimasse
is one of my favorite moments in all dos BDonAK videos

lol

by Lat We N Trash on Aug 21, 2007 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

What?
He didn't rebound or block shots?  Gotta disagree with you Atma.  Foyle's not a terribly talented player, but in his very, very limited playing time, he certainly did rebound and block shots.  Ignore the per-game total which just shows that he wasn't used much, his rebound rate (based on a percentage of available rebounds) was 2nd on the team to Andris (well, 3rd, if you count Ike) and his blocks per minute would have put him among the league leaders.  He did rebound and he did block shots.  

He just didn't do anything else.  He's still got hands of stone, can't handle a pass, doesn't know how to move the ball and is, when you get down to it, a terribly limited player, but let's not make up false statements about the only two things he did reasonably well.

I don't know if you can blame his predicament on his lack of work.  I suspect it's that he just isn't that talented and no amount of work is going to change that.

by jae on Aug 20, 2007 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Look I Love the Guy
But NO professional basketball player can be that bad. He hasn't added one thing to his game since his rookie season. It's pitiful. I really don't think he's that much less athletic than guys like JYD, Benny Wallace, Varajeo- but they all were and are 100x more effective than him.

It's a poor rebounding team, so sorry I don't value how he stacks up vs what Barkley termed a group of midgets. People used to say Murph's rebounds were empty and meaningless- Foyle's are even more meaningless. He is by no means a good rebounder. Watch the games- he's was by no stretch of the imagination a rebounding threat or force. If he was, don't you think Nellie would've used him against the Jazz?

As for blocks look at what I wrote- he did not try to block EVERY shot (which Nellie complained about in one of his interviews). He blocks and challenges a few (very well) when he first enters the game, but either loses focus, intensity, or stamina and doesn't go after people's shots after a few minutes.

I've always thought he was an overrated defender and even shot blocker. Excellent defenders/ shot blockers are guys like Zo, Jermaine O'Neal, and Tim Duncan- they challenge EVERY shot. Foyle doesn't do that and never has.

Flip back to some of Nellie's interviews with the Razor and Mr. T. My complaints with Foyle's game are very much in line with his.

Don't get me mistaken- I like the guy and I've always rooted for him, BUT his career and work ethic have been pitiful. I find it extremely disappointing that such a smart guy has a very poor grasp of the fundamentals of the game and has such a low hoops IQ. Throughout his career I've seen him be out of position on offense countless number of times and read his man very poorly on D. So what if he finally got into reasonable shape in his 10th year in the league? It's about time.

But again, there's worse guys making that kinda dough in the world for doing worse things. And I'm happy a ton of Cohan's dollars went to him. He'll do good things with his fortunes.

by Atma Brother ONE on Aug 20, 2007 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Atma, you're a hater
Since there is no evidence from last season, and because you will refuse any argument I'll make at this time, I'm going to do something else. I'm going to record Foyles first three games and put PROOF that he challenges everything and is a rebounding FORCE.
I find it extremely disappointing that such a smart guy has a very poor grasp of the fundamentals of the game and has such a low hoops IQ.

Hoops IQ does not = real IQ, Atma. Ever look at some QBs Wonderlick scores? It's a whole different thing trying to position your clumsy body just right rather than look at Campaign finance reform. I know this for a fact, because I may be the smartest in the class, but when my body steps on the basketball floor, I immediately become the dumbest man in the room. And if that was true, can you imagine how dumb Mikael would be? I don't even want to think about it.

Watch the games- he's was by no stretch of the imagination a rebounding threat or force. If he was, don't you think Nellie would've used him against the Jazz?

No, I don't think Don Nelson would've EVER used Foyle. No matter how many rebounds he's got. Don Nelson goes solely on offensive merit, and he doesn't give a CRAP how much you can rebound, block, or defend. Alonzo Mourning would've never seen the light of day.

But, I'm not going to go on, because we've had these arguments before, and they go in circles, and each time you clearly win. Once my video evidence comes out, Atma will cry for mercy!

Adonal Foyle Forever.... Member #1 of the "Bring Back Adonal" Movement!!!!

by Zorgon on Aug 20, 2007 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Foil...
I was at a party recently and as I was getting my food to go I asked for some foil... and about 10 peeps in the building yelled out  Adonal Foyle! I know this has nothing 2 do with grades but I had to do up a Adonal Foyle spoof... that was a fun moment, the ladies were sobbing after that...  maybe when he retires he'll get into the foil business!


"Sorry, we're closed... Moving to..."

by Tony.psd on Aug 20, 2007 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forgot to post, sorry
Awesome! I would buy a Foil sculpture of Foyle.
Adonal Foyle Forever.... Member #1 of the "Bring Back Adonal" Movement!!!!

by Zorgon on Aug 21, 2007 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um no
How can I be a hater if I'm telling you I always root for the guy? I WANTED him to do well. I WANTED him to live up that ridiculous contract. I WANTED him to be a key force off the bench- all of which he did none.

Where did I say Hoops IQ = real IQ? I said I'm disappointed that a smart guy wasn't smarter on the court. I took no shots and will never at the mans intelligence- he's a smart guy and I respect him.

Nellie does not play people solely on offensive merit. That's a myth. He pulled JRich in a few of the Jazz games because he wasn't defending well and kept Jackson in despite his turnovers and questionable shot selection because Stephen always brought it on the defensive end- Nellie even spoke about this point on Jax in an interview on KNBR.

Yes, Nellie's leash with Foyle was extremely short this year, but given his poor play on the court and failure to listen to what Nellie asked him to do plus his accumulated poor performance over the years, I can't really blame him. It's not like Foyle has any upside or any trade value to showcase.

The next GM that signs Foyle should be given a pink slip. Hopefully the man concentrates on campaign finance reform and stops masquerading as an NBA player. The NBA is second to him and that's fine.

by Atma Brother ONE on Aug 20, 2007 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Consequently, that GM may be Danny Ainge
And we all know how you love him.
Adonal Foyle Forever.... Member #1 of the "Bring Back Adonal" Movement!!!!

by Zorgon on Aug 21, 2007 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

D
Tha only reason he dont get an F- is because he realized he sucks and took tha buyout.
I love 2 tell tha truth, but I'm such a Good Liar

by JRichIsStillAGodButBiedrinsIsABeast on Aug 20, 2007 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

He does NOT suck
he just realised that they needed the money.
Adonal Foyle Forever.... Member #1 of the "Bring Back Adonal" Movement!!!!

by Zorgon on Aug 20, 2007 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

you cant be serious
if he didnt suck he'd still be on the team.  Hes not even a mediocre player.  Do you honestly not see that?  He is probably one of the worst centers in the league AND he was drafted in the top 10.  He sucks, period.  

by djchuckdeez on Aug 20, 2007 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

U must admit, tho
That was a cool gesture to give the dubs the kind of discount he did.  I mean, who in the NBA settles for a sixty some odd percent buyout?  He coulda been a tru d!k and rode the pine the next 2 years at $9 mil a year.

Thunder, Thunder, Golden State, Ho!!!

by Tim N Chris Burger on Aug 21, 2007 1:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ummm
MVP.
Adonal Foyle Forever.... Member #1 of the "Bring Back Adonal" Movement!!!!

by Zorgon on Aug 21, 2007 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grade? A+++++++++++++
At least Adam Lauridsen has some semblence of how to rate players.

Hash: I'm coming for you! Make a run for it, before you must face my wrath!

As for the GSoM crew: you guys don't know true talent. Nellie ball comes back and all of a sudden we're rating a guys offense. Trying to judge him on what he did this season? Puh-leaze. Don Nelson gave him 5 minutes (in which nothing momentous happened) to prove himself, and then he confines him to the bench for the rest of the season. Talk about crap.

Adonal will come back for you....and when he comes back to the Oracle, he will put the SMACK DOWN on all of you who have hated his basketball skills for so long.

Watch out for Defensive Player of the Year!

Adonal Foyle Forever.... Member #1 of the "Bring Back Adonal" Movement!!!!

by Zorgon on Aug 20, 2007 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Adonal Foyle's Grade
Adonal Foyle does get an A for being an inspiring figure in the Warriors' locker room. He was a Warriors lifer who's been with the squad for a decade. He has kept his professionalism throughout his tenure with our beloved team. He didn't complain about PT and never does. It was just unfortunate that he was paid a lot more than we would have bargained for. His defense and hustle proved very crucial for us for the better part of his 10 years with us. If Foyle would have trained a bit more, he would have been a poorman's Ben Wallace. Maybe, some other team will hone his skills well enough to make him into that kind of player.

by Phil T28 on Aug 20, 2007 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

A for what else, Adonal
(Okay maybe F for Foyle, but that's a surname!)

You can't give him a 100% crap F when he took less money in his buyout, as always taking one for the team for the better good, never really giving you a legit reason to hate on him.

Andris Biedrins came into his own and became the best center prospect possible for the run and gun style.

Even if Foyle was a 10 rebound guy, you're not going to have him on the floor at the same time as Andris, in any game with such an uptempo offense implemented. Foyle outlet passing notwithstanding. combine the Foyle outlet pass with AB's speed and length into one player and then you got something!

So to say you wanted soo much production out of him, that would have taken away key minutes from AB anyway. And instead of subbing C for C in foul/fatigue moves, Nellie wanted to throw Big Al into the mix for the mismatches, even if you lose the post presence and rebounding/shot contesting.

You knew out of the first few years of Duncan and Foyle's respective careers who was going to be what. Kinda late to expect a similar player. Foyle's salary also didn't hamper bringing in the mid season moves and turnaround of the team and in one more year with the next season expiring would have been an asset to get another rotation player, nobody major playing the chances, but someone else in an MP2 kinda bench/spotting minutes role as has been mentioned before in the Foyle Buyout threads on GSoM here.

by back2back51s on Aug 20, 2007 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

GRADE A
for best payed add-on -Foyle

i think he's not so bad player as written in lot of coments
-and not so good as Zorgon says
-i think hes value is about 2,5 for season and that says how good i rate him

don't blame him
-blame W's management -he deserved every cent he get

by Lat We N Trash on Aug 21, 2007 1:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Pluses and Minuses = Grade: D and F
Pluses:
  • He is a good rebounder. Terry Cummings tutored him in the fine art of blocking out.
  • He has amazing shot blocking timing. But to Atma's point, he seemed to only want to go after shots in spurts. I have no idea why.
  • He is, by all accounts since I never met him, a good guy who cares about the world.
Minuses:
  • Dropped passes
  • Free Throws
  • Refusal to follow the coach's instructions and abandon all offensive aspirations.
  • Lack of any improvement in any area of his game except for that one drop step move he learned at big man camp which only works from a specific spot in the right side of the low post.
THE SINGLE MOST AGGRAVATING THING ABOUT FOYLE'S GAME:

- His horrible screen setting. It always looked like he was playing tag instead of setting a pick. He would touch the guy he was supposed to be setting the pick on and roll to the basket after .5 of a second. For one thing, it didn't work because he wasn't actually screening the guy so nobody got open. The other thing is, why was he rolling to the basket? So he could drop the pass? Not finish if he managed to retain the ball after fumbling it a couple times? Or somehow get fouled and miss on or two of his free throws? The point is, he never set a proper screen and it seemed like the reason was he was soo eager to roll to the basket so he could turn the ball over or miss a shot or free throws.

Bottom line: He did on or two things really well and a bunch of things abysmally. He gets a "D" for being a below average basketball player but he gets an "F" for not making the most of what he was good at by refusing to playing within himself and just concentrate on rebounding, defending and blocking shots. Oh, and learning how to set a screen. That's all on him.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Aug 21, 2007 3:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Too bad
you failed to mention his extreme outlet passing!

MVP! MVP! MVP! MVP!

Adonal Foyle Forever.... Member #1 of the "Bring Back Adonal" Movement!!!!

by Zorgon on Aug 21, 2007 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha
I can't believe people are still surprised to see that Zorgon thinks Foyle is awesome. Don't try to convince him otherwise. It's true love.

And as far as Foyle's defense goes one block every ten minutes or so isn't bad any way you look at it. Nellie could have asked him to block every shot but seriously what do you want from the guy. He clearly blocked all the shots he could in his limited time with his limited hops.

I will close with a quote from Rex Chapman while doing a W's game on espn, right after they listed Foyles career blocks. "Thats a lot of blocks for a guy who can't jump over a phone book!" or something to that effect.

.

by olympicmike on Aug 21, 2007 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Word.
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by Zorgon on Aug 22, 2007 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Foyle = Starting Center?

I seem to have some vague recollection of OD being a starting center when Mike Montgomery was coach.  Maybe he started for some other Warrior coach, too, but the memory is all very cloudy now.  I try to think about it, but then I scrunch my face and pass out.

by callahan on Aug 21, 2007 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

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