Kawakami Blog: Nelson speaks

by myron on Sep 26, 2007 3:56 PM PDT

I know we all knew that Nellie really loved Belinelli, but read this blog entry by TK: http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/kawakami/

"I'm assuming Belinelli's really ready to go," Nelson said. "The guy's got stardom written all over him."

wow, nelson said that there are no real comparisons to this kid in the NBA. I know the Nellie blows smokescreens sometimes, but he is also the most honest coach you ever heard. I hope he's on the latter tip right now.

Some other good stuff in this entry too. Please do read.

I am so pumped for Oct. 30th. Well really I am so pumped for Oct. 2nd when training camp starts.

I Nellie I trust.

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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well

people don't say nellies belly for no reason.

by baller90210 on Sep 26, 2007 4:54 PM PDT 0 recs

As TK says:

"I'll see it when I believe it". I've hoped for awhile that Belinelli will be good enough to start at SG, cuz I agree that Monta is an ideal 6th man at this point in his career. (As is Harrington.)

But while Nellie is incredibly honest, he's also been known to err in judgment. Wagner was mentioned in the blog comments; I also think about Dunleavy as a PF, which was basically an idea Nellie raved about as a sure success. That is, until they played the first game of the season and he found out he was dead wrong. Belinelli might play his way into the starting 2 position, but Nellie could be wrong about his immediate effectiveness and he'll go to the bench at the blink of an eye.

by ffgolden on Sep 26, 2007 5:11 PM PDT 0 recs

Is there anyone

Who hasn't been known to err in judgment? To err is human, etc.

Also, with Nellie, you're never sure how much of what you're hearing is actually "judging" and how much is deception, motivational ploy, playful BS, and just general chain-yanking...

by Sleepy Freud on Sep 26, 2007 7:56 PM PDT up 0 recs

Oh c'mon

I don't want my saviors erring in judgment left and right. I think we should hold Nellie to a higher standard. Say, omniscience?

by ffgolden on Sep 27, 2007 12:13 AM PDT up 0 recs

Dunleavy not a fair comparison

Yea but I don't think Nelson ever said the words Dunleavy and Stardom in the same sentence.

Even so, you have to be skeptical. I don't know why Nelson would say these things though if he didn't really think they were to come true.

Check out our starting 5, assuming Belinelli and Harrington are among them: 4 very solid 3-point shooters. That should allow Baron, Monta, and Biedrins plenty of room to operate in the paint. If Kazu and Barnes can come off the bench and drain some shots when Belinelli, Jackson, and Al are off, that will make this team even more unstoppable.

by BingBluNT on Sep 26, 2007 5:22 PM PDT 0 recs

wagner not a fair comparison either

We all know Wagner had a ton of skill. How was Nellie to know that he physically could just not keep up anymore because of his medical issues. I think if Wagner ended up being 100% healthy, Nellie's case would have been made.

Regardless, this Belinelli cat is gonna be fun to watch and I'm salivating at the mere prospect of him turning into a superstar.

Point definitely taken though...Nellie has made some mistakes, but he's also made numerous "great finds": Spree, Hardaway, Nowitzki, Nash (to a certain extent) and i'm sure there are others i'm not remembering.

by myron on Sep 26, 2007 5:27 PM PDT 0 recs

Too True!

I remember scratchin' my head when the dubs drafted spree, who woulda thunk he would become a household name, synonymous with coach-choking and rims.

The best duo since...

by Tim N Chris Burger on Sep 26, 2007 10:54 PM PDT up 0 recs

don't forget

devin harris
josh howard
marquis daniels (decent while he was in dallas, and for where he got drafted)

Questions? Complaints?

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by OptionZero on Sep 26, 2007 11:16 PM PDT up 0 recs

werd.

Lets just cross our fingers Belinelli ends up towards the top of the list!

by myron on Sep 26, 2007 11:21 PM PDT up 0 recs

Starting Lineup My guess

PG Baron Hudson
SG Marco Ellis
F Jackson Barnes
PF Croshure Harrington Wright
C AB Peravic

its really hard to tell but i have heard that nellie loves Austin C and marco B alot of times this offseason.
we saw what happened last year with Harrington some he didnt play cause of rebounding and inconsistancy really in the playoffs to.
I think Ellis is better off the bench.
I like Croshure at the 4......
He can rebound and Knock down 3 balls to.

Best seat in the House

by kaszowski on Sep 27, 2007 4:03 AM PDT 0 recs

If Croshere is our starting PF

I may start breaking things.

Austin Croshere sucks. He barely belongs in the NBA. Did you not think to yourself "EXcellent!!!" (/Mr. Burns/) when Avery would bring him in against us? The only time he should get off the bench is late in games when when we need either five 3-point shooters or five good FT shooters on the floor. 2-8 minutes a game max.

I'm pretty sure -- fingers crossed -- Mulson realize this. I'd actually think there's a much better chance of Croshere getting cut in camp than being our starting PF (if, for example, two out of POB or Perovic and Lasme make good impressions).

Meanwhile, where are Azubuike and Pietrus on your list? Both of them are much more effective, versatile players than THud, Kostacoast, or Cro-magnon.

by Sleepy Freud on Sep 27, 2007 4:58 AM PDT up 0 recs

don't worry

Kazowski didn't bother reading the blog:

Belinelli starting
Ellis will earn his pay as a 1
Croshere = 4, not 5, not starting 4
Lasme = 4, not 3 or 5

Depth Chart then from what i took outta it:

Baron, Ellis, Hudson
Belinelli, Azubuike
Jackson, Barnes
Harrington, Croshere, Lasme, Wright
Biedrins, (Harrington)

One of Lasme or Wright will probably get buried, since there aren't nearly enough minutes to develop both of them; unless Wright plays some 3, he might get the POB treatment going on what Nellie's said so far.

Questions? Complaints?

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by OptionZero on Sep 27, 2007 9:35 AM PDT up 0 recs

You ain't seen Nellieball yet

I have fess up: I thought Croshere would see action as the center. Instead, whenever Biedrins exits, this team's going small. TMNT @ 5 small.

If Wright and/or Lasme show they can play, I don't think Nelson will have any problem giving them some of Barnes' minutes at the 3. Not that there aren't minutes to go around at PF with Harrington expected to log 15 minutes a game at center.... and I'm also not sure why you have Lasme in front of Wright. That is, a second rounder in front of the 8th overall pick. Don't you think a preseason interview is a little premature to make that judgement?

The strategy to use Ellis mostly as a replacement (to Baron) could limit his numbers, but it could also blow up in the warriors's faces.

Kind of a letdown to see JRich not on that list, but still an exciting lineup. When is opening night?

by BingBluNT on Sep 28, 2007 2:36 AM PDT up 0 recs

Premature lineup musing...

I'd have no problem with either Wright or Lasme -- whoever impresses more in camp -- as our starting PF right out of the gate. Both love to run the floor, have great hands, and defend the rim effectively but not recklessly (#1 and 3 among all NCAA PFs in blocks per foul). Both seem to know their strengths and limitations; neither does anything to hurt their team. And both would nicely complement the inside-outside playmaking of TMNTHarrington.

With the understanding that "starting" doesn't necessarily mean playing 30-35 minutes when you're using a 10-man rotation at Nellieball pace, I'd be intrigued to see us trot out this starting 5:

Baron
Belinelli
Harrington
Lasme
Biedrins

A pretty balanced, athletic, versatile bunch, imo. You could criticize it for the two rookies, but neither is really a true rook, Belinelli having played professionally for years and Lasme being 24. You have two guys who can fill it up and make plays from anywhere, two guys who set screens, play mad D, and board like crazy, and BD, the boss who stirs the drink.

In any case, I'd prefer both Lasme and Wright at starting PF to Croshere, who's too slow to be a dominant rebounder in Nellieball, and whose only other semi-skill -- shooting from deep -- is duplicated, much more effectively, by Harrington.

Presumably Jax would take over the starting SG role after serving his suspension, unless Belinelli truly does have "stardom written all over him." I agree with Nellie and others who say Monta's role should be full-time backup PG/"super sixth man," leading the second unit wiith Azubuike, Barnes, and Wright.

Sorry, this post doesn't really have a point, does it? As BingBluNT says, "when is opening night?"

by Sleepy Freud on Sep 28, 2007 3:29 AM PDT 0 recs

Guessing Game

If any of the three rookies start, you have to believe it will be Belinelli. Even if that means starting Harrington at the 4.

Starting Belinelli at the 2, and Jackson at the 3, though does sort of clear a path for Wright and Lasme to get a lot of playing time: with shooters on the wings the warriors will look for a power forward with more inside game.

I still worry about playing Lasme next to a center who lives in the same neighborhood as the restricted area. Things could get a little crowded down there....

and the forgotten man in all this is Barnes. If he picks up where he left off last year, could he see time at PF? I think Barnes will see time guarding bigmen when this team wants to go small. Meaning Kazu and the rookies, and Pietrus if he's back, would spend more time at the 3.

by BingBluNT on Sep 28, 2007 11:11 AM PDT up 0 recs

Whoa, whoa, whoa......wait a minute.

I think we are getting a little bit premature on Belinelli being a big contributor off the bat. Remember, this is a guy that didn't even start for his Country in the Euro tourney. Don't get me wrong, great upside, will be very exciting to see, but I think we should start him on the bench and build his minutes.
As for Ellis, I don't know why they are forcing him to be a PG. He turns the ball over too much and is not the best decision maker. Leave him at the two and maybe he can develop into a more athletic Rip Hamilton.
As for Croshere, I got to agree with Freud, this guy is garbage. He is not someone that is going to help clean the glass off the bench and does not give us depth at the 4 or 5. Let's see what the 4 young kids can do backing up Biedrins and Harrington. Maybe taking a stab at trading an unhappy Pietrus for a big.

by tangel29 on Sep 28, 2007 3:43 AM PDT 0 recs

Forcing Ellis at PG

You may be right that he will never be a PG but I would really like to know how he handles the Back-up PG duties before negotiating his next contract. If the best he can be is a really good undersized SG I'm not sure I break the bank for him, but if he can be a great (or very good)scoring PG thats a different story.

If he fails at PG, well his price goes down next offseason. If he succeeds then maybe the number we are willing to give Baron goes down. Either way I think it would be good to give him a while at PG before passing judgement.

by olympicmike on Sep 28, 2007 11:41 AM PDT up 0 recs

Very true!

No your right. I don't think Baron will wait long enough for us to extend him for that long, but it would be very good for the Warriors to see if there is any chance Monta can become a PG. Maybe give him minutes when you have Jax and Barnes on the floor.

by tangel29 on Sep 28, 2007 4:45 PM PDT up 0 recs