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OPEN THREAD: Game 45 - Warriors vs Knicks



Warriors (W-L): 26-18

Knicks (W-L): 14-28

Time: 6:00pm PST

TV:FSN Bay Area

Radio: KNBR 680

This is one of those games that scares me. Maybe it was the loss to the Timberwolves and the narrow win against New Jersey that now has me spooked, but I feel like the Warriors can't consistently put inferior teams away. They let them hang around until the end and the game is decided in the last minute. The last time the Warriors and Knicks played, it was a blowout and the birthplace of the "Fire Isaiah" chants. So why is this game going to be any different?

Star-divide

On the season, the Knicks have been awful, but they have won 5 of their last 7 including a 24 point win against Detroit. Also, they only lost to Boston by 16, not 45 like that last time they played. Zach Randolph is hitting the boards hard (or soft depending on how you look at it), Jamal Crawford is now the man averaging 21 on 45% shooting, and Nate Robinson is taking over as the PG averaging 30 minutes per game in January. Is it a coincidence that all of a sudden the team plays well when they learn that Stephon Marbury is likely done for the season? The first game he missed was the Detroit win after all.

Be sure to check out Atma's interview of Modi from Cosellout on the state of the Knicks, Isaiah Thomas, and more for a quick catchup on the New York situation.

Look out for...

  • Jamal Crawford: He's certainly stepped up his game in the new year and led this team on a nice winning streak. He's their best player right now. Baron or Jax will probably match up with him and force others to score.
  • Nate Robinson: I expect Monta to match up with Big Nate. This isn't the same Nate we saw last game, he's now playing 50% more minutes and giving Isaiah some solid PG play off the bench. Modi chimes in on his improvement in the interview with Atma.
  • David Lee: He's all hustle out there on the glass. I heard he doesn't play much because every time he's out there, the opposing team attacks him because he's their weakest defender. When he plays I'll be looking out to see if one of Isaiah's "untouchables" is really untouchable.
  • Quentin Richardson: If he starts shooting, cover your ears!



The Krispy Kreme Brothers
Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry. They're like 2 offensive lineman playing basketball - they don't know how to pass the ball, take up lots of space, will help you score, and most importantly, don't play defense. In the last game against the Warriors, these two were essentially the reason for the Knicks' losing. The Warriors' quickness simply confused the two of them. Much like when cartoon characters are dazed and confused, you could see the stars circling above the heads of these two as the Warriors double teamed them and then got in the passing lanes. It was certainly fun for the Warriors and their fans. If Isaiah learned anything from last game, he either will not put these two on the floor at the same time or has taught them how to find the open man. But if he's stubborn and plays these two together, it could be trouble because of their fatness (that's a real basketball term). They'll eat up space, clog the lane, and if they can make a move before the double team comes, may score a bunch of points.

Okay enough about the Knicks, what do the Warriors have to do?

The Warriors, simply put, have to play like the Warriors. The Knicks cannot score or run with the Warriors, so as long as the tempo remains up, there's no reason the Warriors won't win this. If this game starts to get into a half court love fest, watch out because Lee and Randolph will crash the boards hard. I don't expect this to get into a half court game because the Knicks just don't play good enough defense to slow down the Warriors. You'll see a lot of the same Warriors, Monta getting out on his 1 man fast breaks, Baron getting in the lane distributing, and Jax throwing up 3's. I think we'll see a lot more of Andris tonight on the pick and roll especially if one of the Krispy Kreme brothers is guarding him.

All in all, this game will be closer than it should be, but the Warriors are too good and the Knicks too bad. No "Fire Isaiah" chants tonight. I think those should be "Keep Isaiah" chants. After all, it's always better when the Knicks lose.

Predictions

  • This won't be a repeat of the blowout last game, but still the Warriors will win by 8
  • Baron follows up his triple double with 25 points and 12 assists.
  • Biedrins gets his own double double too
  • The Warriors order up the Knicks' pre-game spread as only Krispy Kreme donuts.
  • Randolph acts like he's in line at In n' Out and orders up a double double.

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I think
I liked the artist interpretation of the FSN game night picture better than the actual one
My pictures never show up here, so this is my new Signature

by sloth11 on Jan 27, 2008 12:58 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just saw the new Rambo Movie...
...and was inspired to do up a new sign for Bellinelli! Although he doesn't get any play time, with the movies release and him lookin' like Stallone... the timings perfect hahaha!
(lol, the new film is super violent! I loved it!)


by Tony.psd on Jan 27, 2008 1:06 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tony.psd
You are the MAN.  I can't believe how many legit ideas you always seem to come up with.

I just got my GSoM calendar a couple weeks ago and it is absolutely bangin...all my friends are crazy jealous.

Love the new Belinelli poster, made me laugh...especially how you were able to capture that "kinda high" look that he's always sporting (I can't be the only one that notices that, right?).


then we will fight in the shade.

by Swamp Thing on Jan 27, 2008 1:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never noticed...
But that's probably because I'm high every time I watch the game.

by BALLINelli on Jan 27, 2008 5:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol
nice one tony! as always, it cracked me up
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Jan 27, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

About tonight's game.....
If we shoot well (the 3's) , we will runaway with win
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Jan 27, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First game in 12 years
I am excited to see the Ws at the Oracle for the first time in years.  It is gonna be awesome.

by belli nellie on Jan 27, 2008 2:59 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow
12 years since you've been to a game?! Have you been out of the country? That's crazy.

Have fun at the game!

by Fantasy Junkie on Jan 27, 2008 3:08 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha
Just never had the opportunity.  I grew up way Northern Cali and was a Warriors fan all through high school but only went to a couple of games, the last one being in 4th grade and I think they played the Cavs in their old Unis.

Just got back into the Ws heavily 3 years ago, but lived in Socal.

Last night's game was a fun one to be at.

by belli nellie on Jan 28, 2008 3:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Loved the Oracle, but
a little disappointed by my section.  I was the only one making any noise.  These kids next to me seemed to be ashamed that I was screaming my head off in support, but its aight, hopefully they learned what people who really want to be at a game do to support their team.

by belli nellie on Jan 28, 2008 3:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

asdf
Wow bro, 12 years, that's quite a stretch. Be prepared though to step into an insane environment. I usually get 2 or 3 of those 4 packs and I was at the game last Thursday against the Nets and I have literally never heard anything get louder than when we went on that run in the 4th. It's going to be crazy tonight since it's the Knicks, have fun and be loud.

The Warriors win this one going away by 16, Jack regains his tough for 6 3's made.

by J Rich 4 MVP on Jan 27, 2008 5:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i wish
but its not going to happen.. warriors by 1 in the final second.

i cant even remember the last blowout we had in the oracle.

by saintdee on Jan 27, 2008 5:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Won't Be A Repeat!
What's up Fantasy Junkie. Thanks for the reference. I definitely agree that it won't be a repeat of last time, however, the scary thing is that last time GS didn't shoot the 3 ball all that well. The Knicks 3 point defense is just plain horrible (see Krispy Kreme brothers).

On a side note, I don't subscribe the Knicks recent surge to the "Minus-Marbury Theory". The Knicks hit a really soft spot in their schedule. Both Detroit and Wiz wins came after their teams played 4 games in 5 nights. Both were very flat. The rest of the improvement is because Balkman finally got off the bench, Nate's improved play, and jamal got hot for a few games. Every year Jamal does this and then cools off. But when he is hot, there is no defending him. Jamal would actually fit very well into the Warriors system come to think about it.

Your "State by 8" prediction sounds about right. But if Isiah decides to split Eddy-Zach and sit Q, the Knicks could win this. Watch out for Nate...

...BTW, I'm scared of Monta...

"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference". -- Elie Wiesel

by MODI on Jan 27, 2008 5:50 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol
this game is so low scoring... whats up wit that?

by saintdee on Jan 27, 2008 6:22 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

disgusting
we cant buy a 3 right now...

by saintdee on Jan 27, 2008 6:26 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe
it's time to buy a layup??? I heard the knicks have them on sale too.

by lightz0ut on Jan 27, 2008 6:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sit Stephen Jackson ...
.. at home is the 1st quarter. He's terrible to start the game at home against beatable opponents.
Turnovers, Jaking 3's ... enough please!

by soem on Jan 27, 2008 6:49 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i am glad..
that nelson is trusting the young guys.. both davis and jackson off the court. watson and buke in. Loooks good so far

by saintdee on Jan 27, 2008 6:55 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow
super small lineup. baron playing center?

watson, ellis, baron, buike, pietrus

by curtischin on Jan 27, 2008 7:04 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i guess nellie is finally
punishing jack for the sloppy turnovers.

by houseofprime2 on Jan 27, 2008 7:05 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn
It'd be crazy if Zach Randolph ends up with a triple-double.

by greala on Jan 27, 2008 7:07 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They played
like crap in the second quarter.

by semarubaka on Jan 27, 2008 7:10 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol
what is this? another close ORACLE miracle? i hope we win, even playing like this
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Jan 27, 2008 7:11 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we need a miracle to beat the Knicks
on our home court.  Theres something really wrong with this team.

by nautica on Jan 27, 2008 7:14 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was right
if we win it'll probably be by a small margin.

by saintdee on Jan 27, 2008 7:12 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Check the Standings
Dubs are in 9th place right now with Utah winning today.
This is a must win game and the team isn't playing like they understand that.

by soem on Jan 27, 2008 7:15 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

asdf
may be Webber can help us.....i hope
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Jan 27, 2008 7:21 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When was the last time
you saw a Warriors player hit a 3 when the other team had all the momentum? Most likely since we thrive off momentum, we can't hit them, but the infuriating part is that we go back to that even though we should be trying to kill their momentum by driving and drawing fouls.

I changed my stance from Jackson should not shoot until the 4th into Jackson should not shoot unless the Warriors have momentum or neither team has momentum. But when the other team has momentum...

CJ Watson looks very good.

by belilaugh on Jan 27, 2008 7:22 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmm kinda a slow thred so far
warriors fell asleep in the second quarter...jackson was not playing well. monta has to start heating up the offense
straight g

by RC650 on Jan 27, 2008 7:25 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When
Nate Robinson got the offensive rebound, you know you have some problem.

by semarubaka on Jan 27, 2008 7:35 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOW
HOLY MOTHER EDDY CURRY IS FAT

by curtischin on Jan 27, 2008 7:36 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope
they know they're currently out of the playoffs right now.

by semarubaka on Jan 27, 2008 7:40 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That 3 by BD
just turned momentum back in our favor.  4th quarter come back baby.

by Calamity on Jan 27, 2008 7:56 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the bank
is open on sundays? heh

by saintdee on Jan 27, 2008 7:56 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow
the knicks cannot defend the rim to save their life.

by houseofprime2 on Jan 27, 2008 8:12 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for real
none of their big guys even move a step on defense even lee.

by the evil monkey on Jan 27, 2008 8:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As soon as
you want to hate Captain Jack for all the stupid shot attempts he took, he always makes up for it in the 4th quarter when it matters.

by semarubaka on Jan 27, 2008 8:13 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh my
AB you are a beast!!!

by UKgswfan on Jan 27, 2008 8:22 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOW
Like Barnett said, drama every nite. Nice to see them get this one.

by soem on Jan 27, 2008 8:29 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh how I hate Andris yet love him....

Tony.psd = Da Man

http://adonalobsessed.blogspot.com/

by Zorgon on Jan 27, 2008 8:36 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Phew
The Knicks scared me for a little while there.  Bad shooting night, but they still come away with the W.

by Calamity on Jan 27, 2008 8:37 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's Over Now ...
lol.  And Warriors are finally at the 0.600 win percentage mark. Beat Houston and Baron has very good chance to make All Star reserves.

by soem on Jan 27, 2008 8:39 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not pretty
But as Al Davis says "Just win Baby" End of year nobody will remember if this was a 30 pt. win or a nail biter. Its the win that counts. However, lets get a blow out so we can truly enjoy a non stress game for once.

by PhilSmith on Jan 27, 2008 8:41 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yikes
ugly win

im happy for beans pulling down 26 rebounds though.

art by jnazaire 07

by disguy on Jan 27, 2008 8:42 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow
26 boards for the Latvian wonder???

If my Basketball Reference skills are correct, that's the most in the NBA since 2006 -- since Big Ben ripped down 27 on 12/15/06.

Indeed, Big Ben and Mutombo are the only players in the NBA in the past ten years to have snagged more than 26 boards.

Somehow come negotiation time, I think Bill Duffy will not fail to point these facts out...

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 27, 2008 8:48 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looks
like i was off by 1 point in my prediction. I told you this would come down to the wire. The warriors tend to be overconfident with weaker teams and end up having to climb out of a hole.

by saintdee on Jan 27, 2008 9:10 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is it me
or does Nate seem faster than Monta?

by gby822 on Jan 27, 2008 9:30 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah
Im not saying that Nate is better
Cuz he's not
Im just pointing out that
Nate Robinson is fast.

by gby822 on Jan 27, 2008 10:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he did appear quicker
i think it's because he has better handles. he ain't faster though. monta is cold vicious hahah
art by jnazaire 07

by disguy on Jan 27, 2008 10:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

like
if they were to race
one end of the court to another, i think Nate would win
But then add the ball, and then defenders
Monta wins.

by gby822 on Jan 28, 2008 4:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Monta
could finish better than young Nate. I think Monta is the quickest player who can actually finish the play.
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Jan 27, 2008 9:53 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This Western conference
is a jungle, how the warriors are gonna pull this off is gonna be very interesting.....
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Jan 27, 2008 9:55 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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