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Recap: Warriors - 105, Kings - 102 - Cause for Concern

Seriously, I don't know if my heart can take it anymore. Our inability to break a lead open and run away with a game (aside from the Bobcats game of course) is really starting to become a concern.

Are we spoiled? Should we be this cynical about our team when we just hit 10 games above .500?! Well, yes. Yes we should.

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Kings Warriors Basketball

A shining star.

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The Warriors have developed a talent for playing to the exact level of the team that are facing. It's this talent that has handed us losses to Minnesota and Chicago, and it's this talent that has allowed us to beat San Antonio. Simply put, any team can beat us, and we can beat any team. This statement has been proven time and time again for this Warriors team. We are by far the most irregular team in the league.

In the end, it leaves a fan wondering whether he/she should be celebrating this volatility or fearing it.

I think after a game like last night's, I can confidently say that I fear it. Our 48 minute streakiness has left us with more bad than good so far and we are in desperate need of the one element that always seems just out of our reach.

Control.

Take a jump with me and let's open this Pandora's Box.

Star-divide

Last night's game served as a textbook example of the lack of control that has been plaguing this Warriors team. Incidentally, in case you haven't figured it out, this isn't going to be a champagne cork-popping recap celebrating our close victory. I love that we were able to put tonight in the W column (shameless plug) but like a proud parent, I want the best for this team. I think most of you can agree that there is some cause for concern.

Right now, when the team has a good record, discussions on this topic will yield clear and somewhat rational analysis of what can be done. If this style of play continues, all it will take is a few hard road trips to whittle away our record. At that point, rationality will be out of the window and rash moves will be taken to slap band-aids on bruises that have been around for a long time. No one wants to see that happen.

Okay, that's all I'll say about that. I'm not Nellie and I have no solutions. In fact, the only thing I have in common with Nellie is my love for cheap domestic beer. So if I ever meet him, I have a conversation starter. I imagine our interaction would go something like this.

Me(slapping Nellie's back): "Hey Nellie! So how good is Bud Light, huh?!"

Nellie: "Don't touch me."

One thing I'll give our boys tonight was that they overcame the slow start. Monta, Boom, and Jax were all on point offensively, with each of them slipping in a cool 6 points. It was clear from the start, however, that Baron's shooting touch was off, but his quick hands weren't. He walked away from the 1st with 3 jacks.

His steals combined with the fact that the Kings dipped their hands in Crisco before the game led to 7 turnovers for the Kings in the first, a stat that allowed us our 9 point lead despite dismal shooting (both from the field and the charity stripe.)

It was after the 1st quarter that things started to get a little sloppy. Free throws were missed, Baron's poor shooting continued, Salmons started filling out a Warrior Killer application, and the Kings went on a 12-2 run that whittled down our lead.

Kings Warriors Basketball

No clue coach! They just keep letting me score!

2nd quarter bright spot: Monta Ellis's midrange jumper is butter. He has got to be turning heads all over the league with the way he has been playing.

2nd quarter dark spot: Evidently getting crowded and smacked in the face is now grounds for a technical foul. Shame on you Biedrins. Crappy call by the blue. That's all I'll say about that.

3rd quarter bright spot #1: Artest makes a steal, dunks the ball, starts beating his chest like Donkey Kong after nailing Mario with a well timed barrel... and gets a T. Look at the bright side Ron Ron, at least it wasn't a close game! Oh wait...

donkey kong

"SCORING GOOD!

3rd quarter bright spot #2: Jackson, you are a BEAST. After a nasty roll of the ankle (seriously, did they have to keep showing that?!) you hobbled off to the bench, rubbed some `Tussin on it, and continued your reign of terror.

3rd quarter dark spot #1: Take your pick. We had to fight at the end just to walk away tied. The Kings owned us this quarter.

3rd quarter dark spot #2: Mp2. Out of bounds. `Nuff said.

So the 4th began just as the game did. Even footing. The Warriors responded like, well, Warriors, getting 4 key steals and 9 offensive boards in the 4th alone. Baron (playing with 5 fouls) and Ellis were clutch on the glass, giving us valuable 2nd and third chances that allowed us to balloon our lead. In the meanwhile, Monta was on another planet, putting down 16 points in the final quarter. He literally carried the team. In the end, however, we were all treated ulcer inducing free throws as the Kings strategically whittled themselves within striking distance as the game clock wound down.

The Kings are not a bad team by any means. They are most certainly not in the same realm of poor quality teams like the Wolves or the Bulls. But there were opportunities last night for the Warriors to run away with the lead and never look back. I love that we got this win; but I think we'll all be able to rest a little easier when they figure out how to control a game for 4 quarters rather than 1 or 2. Only then can they truly be unstoppable. Baby. And yes. That was yet another shameless plug.

wonder

Can there be any doubt? Monta was everywhere at once last night! I love watching this kid grow up. I love his mid range jumper. I love his speed. I love his incredible finishes at the rim. Most importantly, I love that he's ours.

I also love Lucky Charms. Little off topic, but whatever.

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monta all day
He definitely won that game for us. Hopefully Jax's ankle hasn't swollen up too bad this morning.

So anyone else having trouble watching the game on demand?? I keep getting an error.

art by jnazaire 07

by disguy on Feb 10, 2008 11:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

same here
on demand isn't working for me either.  I wanted to watch the second half again.

by nautica on Feb 10, 2008 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Warriors will never control the game
until the jack-a-three mentality ceases.  I know it is a staple of our offensive effectiveness, but when Monta can get almost any shot he wants, and Harrington fakes the 3 and hits the mid range jumper.  They show they can win with only 20 3's per night instead of 35.  If they hit 9 of those 15, instead of 5 of the 15 3's they will be a lot better off.  Baron needs to go to the hole more as well.

by theblackpearl on Feb 10, 2008 11:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Part of the basic Nelson philosophy
is that shooting 33% on 3s is equal to shooting 50% on 2s, and we'd take 50% shooting on 2s right?

That's basically what Andris and Monta do and we're all very happy with that.

From a "watchability" standpoint, it's stressful because it doesn't look like "smart" offense, but they are scoring 109.5 points a game, so it's not the offense that's causing them to lose, it's the defensive intensity/consistency. They go through stretches where they just don't play defense very hard.

 

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 10, 2008 3:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Montayyyyyy
Is out of control.

Dude is shooting *81 PERCENT FROM THE FLOOR* for the month of February. And 80% from the line. 26.7 ppg/ 5.7 rpg / 4.0 apg, and only 2.0 turnovers.

OK, it's only three games, but even his season-long numbers are starting to look sick. How many 6'3" scoring guards shoot 53% from the field?

The kid's blossoms are blossoming. In his honor, I think it may be time to break open the old flickr vault and repost the high-res versions of these....


by Sleepy Freud on Feb 10, 2008 11:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for inducing an acid flashback.
I'm assuming I speak for ssmokinjoe as well.

Seriously, from a spectator's standpoint, there is nobody more enjoyable to watch than Monta right now. He's a low stress, high reward player. He's the equivalent of watching Randy Johnson pitch at his best.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 10, 2008 3:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

0 - 6 start...
Best record in the West since...by a game over the Suns.  So keep your pants on!

This is really the first FULL season for the Warriors. It was easy to run for 20 plus games last year...Harder to mature to a full season team.  The Warriors are still learning and adjusting.

by streetballer on Feb 10, 2008 11:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Caution:
Looks like the 2006 - 2007 believers maybe weren't believers at all, but band-waggoner's posing as believers...Whose sheep's skin is wearing thin showing the wolves they also were!!

http://www.nba.com/statistics/sortable_team_statistics/sortable1.html?cnf=1&prd=10

by streetballer on Feb 10, 2008 8:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good Post
Everyone needs to CALM DOWN. A common theme in the posts here is that BW, Buk, and other young guys need to play more. Somehow, I don't think that will help the W's on defense or rebounding. Nellie doesn't like playing young guys, fine. Whatever. For the time being, that is not a solution to whatever problems the W's have.

First, as far as BD's "off" night, he almost went for a triple double, so that's a pretty great off night. Second, Baron may have to guard the 2 a lot to help Monta, but be honest, BD is built like a 2 and Monta is built like a 1, so that's really not a consideration. Monta is only 22, his defense will get better. Offensively, he's clearly a threat. Jackson didn't have an off night, I don't know where that came from. He played Artest tough all night, sustained a high ankle sprain and still dropped 26 on the Kings. Harrington is free to drive the lane when he gets the ball, and he did a couple of times last night and hit some open jumpers. If he would rebound and defend better in the post, he might play there more. We can all probably agree Al is not spectacular at either. When he proves he can hang in the low post with the big(ger) boys, he can play there more. I don't fault Nellie for that.

The W's problem is not on offense, that is clear. Compared to Phoenix, they allow about four more points a game, but they have more possessions per game too (about four). The Warriors have trouble with big men who can score. That's why they lost to Minnesota, and Houston, and Chicago . . . The point is, they're 30-20, and the only reason we're worried is they play in the West and that is just good enough for an eighth seed tie w/ Houston.

My girlfriend hates that I'm into basketball again, and that I yell at the TV during games.

by sfwarriorcvg on Feb 10, 2008 8:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

as we all strive for perfection...
our shortcomings become obvious but changeable.

Play with the sorting tool.  Interesting facts and figures emerge.

by streetballer on Feb 10, 2008 9:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A good analogy
The old run 'n shoot Houston Oilers. I know, wrong sport, but that was a team that could score no doubt, but had a hell of a time holding leads against decent teams. The Kings are a decent team, been playing well lately, and are the type of team that can give the W's headaches by shooting from all over the court, plus they have a big rebounder in both Miller and Artest.

The Suns struggle with less quality teams as well, as they've lost to Minnesota, and Chicago, etc. just like the W's. I think it's mostly a consequence of how the Warriors play. There's no telling what would change if the W's slowed things down and stopped shooting so much. What if they didn't score as much? They'd lose more! I agree, the W's have been one of the top teams in the league since 0-6, and 1-7, so worrying about close wins might be an overreaction. After all, this is the NBA, like Barnett said on the radio before the Bulls game, "They all belong here, and they'll beat you if you don't take them seriously." Every night looks to be a dogfight in the west, and the W's just have to be ready to scrap.

Jax was the epitome of that fight last night. The word splashed across his chest, "Warrior" doesn't lie, that was as courageous a performance as I've seen from a Warrior. Not only did he stay in the game, he shut DOWN Artest down the stretch, forced his mishandle on what could've been the first game-tying three, and hit a big three to put the Warriors ahead. As long as they can turn in performances like that consistently, the W's will make the playoffs and do some damage.

My girlfriend hates that I'm into basketball again, and that I yell at the TV during games.

by sfwarriorcvg on Feb 10, 2008 12:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ron Artest
is mentally unstable.... This dude needs to be put on MEdication. I would not want him on my team.

Monta on the other hand is just pure fun to watch. This dude can fly!!!!!!!!

brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Feb 10, 2008 1:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jax
i don't know how he came back to floor. He is a legend just like Baron.

Don Nelson is so adament. I listened to the Don Nelson show on KNBR and he said he would not play rookies unless there is a 20 point lead....

brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Feb 10, 2008 2:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

monta
is hella fun to watch.  i was quietly cheering watchin on my comp whenever he finished lol.  

(quietly cuz my roommates are studying...)

by singha on Feb 10, 2008 2:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's getting worse
First, major Kudos to Monta -- who IS the team's offense now; minor Kudos to AB -- but only because Nellie wouldn't play him more.

But this team's in REAL trouble.  And it all starts with Nellie and BD.  Nellie painted himself into an even bigger corner last night, saying not only will he not play his youngsters like BW (a HUGE idiocy), he won't even be playing KAZ (who, even slowed by injury, is better than anyone on the Bench).  His stubbornness is getting tedious.

Nellie's coaching strengths have always been two-fold: first, he want fast, up-tempo guys who can handle the ball and play multiple positions; second, his is traditionally a meritocracy (Adam L's fine term), where those who play well stay in the game and those that don't, sit.  The twp parts necessarily go together.

This year, though, he's thrown the second component out the window -- keeping both BD and Jack in EVEN WHEN THEY'RE STINKING THE JOINT OUT.  And it's getting worse.  I was complaining when he played these two 80 minutes a game -- forcing them to pace themselves and rob themselves of their real talents (when was the last time BD took it strong to the hole?); now he's playing them 85-90 minutes (88-89 last night), even when they're 13-39 shooting.  Silly, stupid, stubborn coaching.  (And you can talk about how good their record is, but it ain't staying that way if Nellie keeps this up.  Their play the last two weeks makes this painfully clear.)  These two don't have to perform because they know they won't get yanked.  So we get games just like those we've been seeing, where Monta or AB have to be super-hot if we're going to win, because BD and Jack can only bring it in short, isolated spurts -- and even those are increasingly missing at crunch time.  (Last night's silver lining for this was watching Monta just take over the game in the 4th Q.  It'd be nice to see Nellie cut the other young guys -- including AB, who needs to be on the floor more -- some slack, and let them play while the old guys get a blow.)

BD's clearly lost it this past month.  Though playing over 40 minutes a game, he's actually getting too heavy, looking a bit like he did two years ago.  He's lost a step.  He rarely drive the hole, and never with the passion of last year.  He's back taking too many bad shots.  And, worst of all, too often he's just sleep-walking through games -- something we never saw last year.  He's the leader, our straw, and yet he's not been the BD we know -- and he's certainly no all-star in 2008, having been schooled by DWilliams, Chris Paul and even Duhon.  I think he's tired; Adam guesses a minor injury, some think he's bothered by Nellie ragging on him.  Whatever it is, if he doesn't get more rest -- and VERY soon -- we're either missing the playoffs or it's one and out.

Jack's problem is easier to spot.  Though he played an OK game yesterday, and showed some "life" in Q4, he's not played well in the last two months.  He still shoots far too much.  His defense has become mediocre, at best.  His hands look tired and slow -- and they're his strength.  Maybe it's his toe; who knows?  But he, too, needs rest.  

It's too early yet to tell about CWebb, but thus far it looks pretty bad: he's slow, out of shape, and he's going to be playing the five (keeping AB off the floor) -- which he hates and which puts him down low, where he's uncomfortable and eminently beatable.  Plus, he slows the whole team down -- when they really need to speed things up.  (Hello BW, Watson, Marco, et al.)

This is most strange.  Not only are the W's playing down to their opposition, their leaders -- Nellie, BD and Jack -- are playing down their incredible BBall smarts.  There's an easy way for these guys to get better, but time's running out.  The answer: have Nellie go back to playing guys that deserve to play.  It's that simple.  BD and Jack could go all out when they're on the floor.  The kids could pick up the speed.  CWebb could be good in spots.  The W's would be fun again.

Monta and AB are pointing the way, blazing the trail to the future.  But they need a fresher game from BD and Jack.  And they need Nellie to swallow his pride, admit bhe's been wrong, and get his younger players involved.  Now.

by johnl on Feb 10, 2008 2:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

agree 100%
very well said. nellie's stubbornness will be the downfall of this team

by AJC3317 on Feb 10, 2008 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well Said
You forgot about the extended play time pietrash gets when his not producing anything and nellie's inability to realize harrington is not a center nd can play him and beans at the same time. and his ability to sit the hottest player on the team in the crucial 4th quarter minutes then put them in when the game is already lost

by gswLLBatman on Feb 10, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

is nellie really giving pietrus more pt?
I almost crapped myself when I heard that during the broadcast last night. For all those bleeding hearts who actually defended Pietrus after the Bulls loss, can I just ask, "Seriously?" And I'm tired of the argument that he's a good defender. How about those 3 fouls in 10 minutes? He sure does move his feet well...right into the ballhandler.
Great point on Nellie never playing Al and AB together...it's senseless. Also senseless is putting Buke in after Baron fouled out. I like Buke, but at that point, we were protecting a lead late in the game. We needed defense and rebounding...we needed AB. Instead, AB stayed on the bench, Buke came in, and Barnes was left to play center. AB finally came in with 15 seconds left, at which point the Kings had cut the lead to 2.
There's a lot of Buke love here, so let me just start by saying he does do a lot of good things, and I'd love to see him in instead of Pietrus on pretty much every occasion. A lot of people knock his D but, for me, his weakness is in his decision making. Case in point, the airball he chucked up with 45 seconds left, 6 seconds left on the shot clock, and a 5 point lead...just not smart.  

by givemontatheball on Feb 10, 2008 3:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Buke's weaknesses
are both D and decision-making. You probably wanted to say that.

"Pietrash"'s weaknesses are poor decisions and offense (outside of corner 3's and occasional strong drives).

In the Bulls game, Pietrus earned the playing time he got, and if people were defending his D in that game, they were right to do so. I distinctly remember him making 3 great defensive plays in a row (including one good foul that saved us from a layup).

I remember him being rather invisible in the Saturday game, the only major damage being from his out-of-bounds catch, which he does from time to time. Then again, it was that terrible lady referee so I'm not sure if he really was out of bounds (I was at the game, so I didn't see a replay).

"Hold it. The Schwarzenegger Library?" - John Spartan after hearing Arnold became President, from Demolition Man

by 61st Amendment on Feb 11, 2008 12:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree
I don't think there was ever a time this season where Baron had 3 consecutive off-nights. His FG% has been erratic ever since the loss to Minnesota: 35.7, 45.5, 38.1, 27.3, 50.0, 40.0, 33.3, 21.1.

It probably is a case of tiredness, but I don't see how Nellie can rest him. February was supposed to be an "easy" month, but the Warriors still haven't shown the ability to consistently put away inferior teams and let Baron rest. Nellie's almost 100% refusal of playing the "young players, including Azubuike" doesn't make things any easier, and neither does the next 4 games against playoff contenders.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.

We're all B.D.'s sidekicks. He's got like five sidekicks. We're like the Power Rangers. - Al

by Caught Backcourt on Feb 10, 2008 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would have written this but you beat me to it
This is why I put the poll in a few days ago on who to blame for the Chicago loss and voted for Nelson as opposed to the players or refs. I feel even more strongly about that now.

For some unknown reasons Nelson has really lost it by insisting on doing it "his way" a la the old blue eyes he is.  I have to give Harrington a lot of credit by publically commenting on Nelson's philosophy twice now in print: first by saying he would prefer to be able to drive to the hoop more often than shoot from the perimeter and then saying the team needs to have a regular rotation so the players feel comfortable with their roles.

I too am afraid, very afraid. Baron is so burned out, BD and Jax won't get the ball to our best two shooters (Monta and Harrington) and yada yada yada. Your comments are so right on!

CWebb is undoubtedly the answer but I forgot the question.

by commish on Feb 10, 2008 5:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well done
Maybe it is because I haven't been a huge basketball fan in the past (always a huge Warriors fan though, just didn't care about the Mavericks), but I never really saw Nelson's genius. I mean, I appreciate his honesty and everything, and at times I see flashes of genius decisions, but I don't know. I mean, if it wasn't for the trade last year, I'm not sure the Warriors would have made the playoffs. And then in the playoffs when Boozer was killing us Nelson had big bodies wasting away on the bench he could have tried out. And then this year he insists on playing Baron for extreme amounts every game, a move I can't see the logic in. To me it is extremely short sighted, because I find it hard to believe that some of the bench players he refuses to use could be worse than Baron when he is pacing himself. I mean, when the game is on the line and Baron doesn't pace himself, he is money, but too often in the beginning of the games Baron won't attack the rim and won't play the shutdown defense he can play because he doesn't want to tire out. I hardly ever see that look in Baron's face anymore, that look where he just decides to take over, probably because he has too much other responsibilities. And Nelson should have checked earlier in the season if sitting Stephen Jackson on a bad shooting day and then putting him back in in the fourth would mess with his late game confidence. It is too risky to learn that now, so he has to live with Jackson no matter what. And Nelson's decision to force Harrington into a 3 point specialist is foolish, I've seen Harrington light it up from mid range and have some nice post moves. Not to mention that Harrington seems to have become a more streaky rather than consistent player now that he only shoots 3s. And I disagree with his views of the bench as well, particularly of Azubuike. I remember in the beginning of the season (it seems like ages ago) Buike would post his guy up, and he seemed very good at that, and Buike would always hit the open three, and Buike would hit a lot of underrated clutch shots, with a very veteran like savvy (remember the Philadelphia game?). Lately I've forgotten he even plays on our team with the way he's been used. And when Nelson says that Webber is better than any of the other big guys, I don't understand where he comes to that conclusion. Webber is probably better than Kosta (probably better because the only time Kosta has ever played he did pretty good actually), but it kills me to see O'Bryant waste away on the bench. People criticize the man's focus, but to me it looks like it would be very hard to focus on the end of Nelson's bench. Belinelli has no confidence, Azubuike has been in a slump lately (conciding with his move to the bench I think), who's to say the reason O'Bryant isn't engaged is the same? Wright keeps hearing that he is only a rookie so I don't think he is fazed, he knows his time will come, but goddamnit I think his time is now. Don't get me wrong there are certain things I think Webber can help us with, but if Webber was the exact same player at POB's age then there is no way Nelson would call him better than those guys. Nelson looks for flaws in his young players and looks for qualities in his veterans. Supposedly he once ran a meritocracy but this system today is not that.

Don't get me wrong, I love Nelson, but just like every other Warrior he is confounding, he has a lot of worth but at the same time a lot of easily solved deficiencies. And he worries me more because the player's deficiencies can be solved by him and other players, but who will help him with his own problems?

Damn that was a long rant. Once again, very good post.

by belilaugh on Feb 10, 2008 7:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i partially agree
with you. It hurts to see these players sitting on the bench. Baron needs to be on the floor though most of the time. No question about it. When he leaves the floor the warriors mostly look like lost sheep. Look at the sacramento game. We were up by like 8 when he fouled out. then they cut it to 2 within 2 minutes. Good thing monta made that jumper or we woulda been cooked. Also the Orlando game when Baron fouled out before overtime. We got raped by the magic too. Without Baron, our offense stalls.

Jackson on the other hand probably does intangible things that we as fans do not really see that warrants his presence. Its most likely his defense. Look at it this way. How are warrior killers born? because jackson shuts down the stars letting some other player have a chance at shooting.

by saintdee on Feb 10, 2008 11:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

so does anyone realize
HOW BAD PIETRASH AND WEBBER ARE I MEAN GOOD GOD. I'D RATHER SEE BRANDON WRIGHT PLAY THEN THOSE 2 SUITING UP

by gswLLBatman on Feb 10, 2008 2:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather
you make comments without the caps lock key on, so that I could take you more seriously.
"Hold it. The Schwarzenegger Library?" - John Spartan after hearing Arnold became President, from Demolition Man

by 61st Amendment on Feb 11, 2008 1:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ya
Sub in the young ones and see what u can get (BW and KAZ can Play!) We don't even know if Nelly is gonna be back next year but this is just driving me nuts! Sometimes he subs out the hot shooter for no reason(he took AL out in the chicago game)
brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Feb 10, 2008 3:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

agreed
I agree that we need smarter basketball from Baron and Jackson, they have played poorly the last two weeks and we need them to step it up.  They both complain too much on the refs and have made it difficult for the team to get any type of favorable calls. It's time for Nellie to sit them down and let his bench develope. Let's not play Barnes at center ever again, it just doesn't work, he can't even defend against 2nd string power forwards, our defense has been horrible lately and it's because teams are starting to take advantage of our smaller players especially when we don't have Biedrins in the middle.  Baron is worn down because he's either being double teamed on offense or is asked to guard the opposing teams small forward/wing on defense. As for Ron Artest, he definitely is mentally ill, I just don't understand all that chest beating after he makes his shot.  Thank goodness for Monta, he's been playing unbelievable basketball!

by shootda3 on Feb 10, 2008 5:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Why do I have this uncomfortable feeling that.....

May become the next edition of.....

And leave the team after this season.  I fear the ridiculous offer of another team that the Dubs don't match.

OakFoSho

by Sneaky275 on Feb 11, 2008 12:13 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think
Monta's going to become Tony Delk anytime soon.
"Hold it. The Schwarzenegger Library?" - John Spartan after hearing Arnold became President, from Demolition Man

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