OPEN THREAD: Game 52 - Warriors vs Suns
Warriors (W-L): 31-20
Suns(W-L): 36-15
Time: 6:00pm PST
TV:ESPN
Radio: KNBR 680

Different Uniform ... same goofy look
Like so many others, I'm still in shock with the Shaq to Suns trade that occurred last week. Few can argue that a trade of this caliber changes dynamic once again for the powers in the West, but it still leaves the question, "Will tonight be the night we see the debut of Shaq in a Sun's uniform?" Not bloody likely (Austin Power's impression). Shaq is out of the "pretend hurt" stage, now in the "oh shoot I have to get into shape" stage, and is expected to come back after the AllStar Break. So what does that mean for tonight? How will the Warriors fare against the best record in the Western Conference? Let's find out ... Jump!
Suns pre trade: I always said Marion was completely underrated even though he has a huge contract. The Suns were battling with the Hornets for 1st position all year before they traded him away and they are keeping up the pace even without him. However, watching them lately you can clearly see they are missing the boards and blocks that The Matrix gave them night in and night out; one of the many reasons for why they must be excited for Shaq to get into game shape.
Now that the Suns have the big "Aristotle" and are (arguably) considered stronger contenders, it will be interesting to see if this trade pans out. Too many people have their own opinions, so I’m waiting to see how the team gels when Diesel gets onto the court. If Shaq is out tonight, look for a high scoring, fast pace game that will tire us out by halftime. I’m excited.
The Warriors on the other hand also have a change in the lineup with the signing of Chris Webber. I’m holding any judgment till next month when Webber has had ample time to get into game shape and learn our system. So far it’s been luke warm but his passing ability has helped out right off the bat.
All in all, tonight is not about Shaq or Webber, trade talks or congressional hearings. Tonight will boil down to the play of 4 guards. The first two are the most prolific players in this league; Steve Nash vs. Baron Davis. One is a two time league MVP while the other has once again been snubbed for the all-star weekend even though putting up MVP like figures.
The second two? Raja Bell vs. Monta Ellis. These shooting guard will no doubt add a scoring punch for both teams to watch out for. My hope is that these dynamic match-ups will make this one of the most entertaining games this year. I’ve always waited for these games when the Suns come into town and play at the Roaracle on national TV. Throw in a young beast like Amare against our sly defensive tandem of Jackson and Biendrins, and you've got yourself some good ol' fashioned mayhem.
Our Warriors closed a close game the other night against the Wizards by coming back from a 23 point deficit, but tonight they better come out blazing to have a shot at controlling the best in the West. The Warriors have won the past two games against the Suns and ESPN reported it best when asking Grant Hill about their last encounter with the Warriors:
Suns forward Grant Hill described Golden State's 129-114 win on Nov. 26 as a "track meet."
With the Warriors recent poor performances in close victories, I’m hoping National TV, playing against the top team in the Conference, and our GSoM crowd, will motivate them enough to but on a show!
Predictions:
No more predictions from me but I have a prize for the individual who can predict the combined final score of the game. As a side question, the one who can predict the combined score of Davis and Ellis will win if an event of a tie. My prediction is: Final combined score of 253 with Davis and Ellis combining for 62.
GO WARRIORS!
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Predictions
Combined points BD+Monta: 56
by All About The W on Feb 13, 2008 2:38 PM PST reply actions
Prediction
Baron and Monta: 45
Prediction
Baron and Monta combine: 60
NatL TV
But since this game is against an elite team, maybe the Warriors will come out focused like the Hornets game.
my "PRD"iction
BD + Blip = 65
by GreenLightJerky on Feb 13, 2008 2:58 PM PST reply actions
Prediction
BD + Monta: 52 points
by nsd14 on Feb 13, 2008 2:59 PM PST reply actions
PREDICTI-OWN
ELLIS AND DAVIS 53
My prediction
Baron and Monta: 45
I feel that the Warriors are going to lose this one for several reason.
a) 2 wins 1 loss. Thats our season right there. We don't usually deviate from this. I mean we lost to Chicago for chrisssake. And after that huge comeback I am betting Jackson is feeling pretty cocky. We will miss our first 3-4 3 pointers. We will give up a huge lead from which we will never recover.
b) The Suns are due for a win
c) The Suns are probably motivated by Shaq
d) I am not sure if Baron is over his snub yet... this game can either be non motivated Baron or motivated Baron.
e) The All Star break is coming up I bet players wanna get this game over with.
crystal balls...
by blah2u on Feb 13, 2008 3:17 PM PST reply actions
Help!!!
http://golf.cautela.nl/showthread.php?t=12680 this site doesn't have games on national tv, so can someone help me out here
by Akira on Feb 13, 2008 3:23 PM PST reply actions
depends on your ISP

then we will fight in the shade.
I Think
by Blacktop Warrior on Feb 13, 2008 3:27 PM PST reply actions
game score + monta/bd
bd & ellis combine for: 32 & 25 = 57
prediction
baron and monta: 63
Prediction
Baron and Monta go off for a cool 55
get your runnin shoes on, STeve nash prediction 7 TO's
by MontaAND1 on Feb 13, 2008 4:11 PM PST reply actions
prediction
Baron and Monta: 58
by jrich23 on Feb 13, 2008 4:18 PM PST reply actions
Shaq's not playin'
262 team totals and
62 for our dynamic duo.
by eshock @ Golden State Of Mind on Feb 13, 2008 4:35 PM PST reply actions
prediction
ON THE RUN - YOU WON!
I got something nice for you =)
by YaoButtaMing on Feb 13, 2008 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks!
U can pass the prize on to the next person...
don't worry man ...
by YaoButtaMing on Feb 13, 2008 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
Prediction
Baron and Monta score: 58
by aqs1980 on Feb 13, 2008 4:48 PM PST reply actions
This is my favorite prediction ...
by YaoButtaMing on Feb 13, 2008 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
i predict
monta n BD=51 points
prediction
baron + ellis: 35
Shooting in the dark
baron gets 22, monta 27 = 49 puntos
by The Barnes Supremacy on Feb 13, 2008 5:10 PM PST reply actions
prediction
BD and Monta go for 46 combined.
131-114 Dubz in a laugher.
Prediction
Monta & BD: 59
by illmaticwarrior on Feb 13, 2008 5:39 PM PST reply actions
My prediciton
Monta + BD = 55
Regardless of the outcome, the top two highest scoring teams makes for great basketball. I'm looking forward to this one.
dam
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Feb 13, 2008 6:03 PM PST reply actions
dangit
art by jnazaire 07
Van Gundy!
yes he's great
online stream
by jngai on Feb 13, 2008 6:10 PM PST reply actions
FINALLY
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Feb 13, 2008 6:11 PM PST reply actions
i swear
total score 233
ellis + baron 58
Elite Team - Fast Start
barnes
our money timeout play
Jeff Van Gundy is awesome

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 13, 2008 6:37 PM PST reply actions
wow
Well lookie lookie

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
Uhhh...
What is this guy talking about?
Yah, I once saw a Roman Orgy break out

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 13, 2008 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
asdf
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 13, 2008 6:40 PM PST reply actions
It was a foul!

Go Warriors!
by babyguess on Feb 13, 2008 6:42 PM PST reply actions
thanks
asdf
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 13, 2008 6:50 PM PST reply actions
asdf
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 13, 2008 6:54 PM PST reply actions
wow
wow
CJ Watson. From San Andreas to the Bay!
by tadams1080 on Feb 13, 2008 6:57 PM PST reply actions
asdf
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 13, 2008 6:58 PM PST reply actions
MP a blocking machine? WTH

Go Warriors!
by babyguess on Feb 13, 2008 7:02 PM PST reply actions
buike
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 13, 2008 7:08 PM PST reply actions
Good Signs Tonight
Baron is on his game.
Nice energy.
Hmmmmmmm....I wonder why?!?!

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Feb 13, 2008 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
they've played good teams and had stinkers
it's more no phoenix defense and no webber slowing the team down.
by the evil monkey on Feb 13, 2008 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
x2
by jdmsir20 on Feb 13, 2008 7:14 PM PST reply actions
I WANNA PICK A FIGHT
Unfortunately, in my senility, I can't remember who it was... :-(
Ellis
gets better. When will it end? He is a blast to watch.
by PhilSmith on Feb 13, 2008 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
and plays better defense
by the evil monkey on Feb 13, 2008 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully we are not seeing
I'm going to watch this game and savor every moment, since it may not come again for a while.
Lol

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Feb 13, 2008 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Off topic
That probably explains
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 13, 2008 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
Milwaukee chokes against New Orleans
don't worry
by the evil monkey on Feb 13, 2008 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
*whistle* Cro!!!!!
we need d'antoni to put
by the evil monkey on Feb 13, 2008 7:42 PM PST reply actions
Make that 5 in 9

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Feb 13, 2008 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
now pietrus
lol pietrus
combine score = 233
by jayfeezy on Feb 13, 2008 7:56 PM PST reply actions
I WANT TO DRIVE MONTA
And pick him up.
And make him hot chocolate, with little marshmallows...
why
CJ Watson. From San Andreas to the Bay!
by tadams1080 on Feb 13, 2008 8:02 PM PST reply actions
great question
i thought
by the evil monkey on Feb 13, 2008 8:03 PM PST reply actions
biedrins
I still think we're not going to win. Stoudemire looks like Yao in the Houston game.. everytime he shoots for some reason the refs blows the whistle. Its utter bs.
Suns 13-0 when leading after 3rd

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
is it me?
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 13, 2008 8:08 PM PST reply actions
My kid leads the NBA in Fast Break Points
lol
by PhilSmith on Feb 13, 2008 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder if Warriorgirl
Do you think she'd go for our budding superstar? If I recall, she was quite an attractive young woman ... though that could have been "Mrs. Matt Barnes..."
(Maybe I had too much wine with dinner...?)
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 13, 2008 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
Monta
by PhilSmith on Feb 13, 2008 8:09 PM PST reply actions
Foul?
by Dubs fan in Boston on Feb 13, 2008 8:10 PM PST reply actions
man
by PhilSmith on Feb 13, 2008 8:13 PM PST reply actions
Keep feeding the young man!

Go Warriors!
by babyguess on Feb 13, 2008 8:15 PM PST reply actions
oracle
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 13, 2008 8:18 PM PST reply actions
Sad thing is...

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Feb 13, 2008 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
monta..
by jayfeezy on Feb 13, 2008 8:19 PM PST reply actions
sigh
omg
How many times...
Eat it Suns bench scrub..
by ScorpioSnake on Feb 13, 2008 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
AZUBUIKE...
by FiddyDuBs on Feb 13, 2008 8:25 PM PST reply actions
ive been saying this the whole season
But then again, who hasn't been saying that?

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Feb 13, 2008 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
..true
by FiddyDuBs on Feb 13, 2008 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
I said it too!!!!
I think your number is the correct one.
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 13, 2008 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
the buki man!!
by jayfeezy on Feb 13, 2008 8:26 PM PST reply actions
lol at the play before
asdf
- The SUns are not getting any calls right now, that ball that went off the ref was ridiculous.
- I've said it before and I'll say it again, Azubuike is the most underrated clutch performer the Warriors have. He is a straight up gamer. He shouldn't be making these shots with only like 2 minutes of play in the past month, but he does, which makes it more remarkable to me. Give him more minutes and I think he could be one of our top 4 clutch performers (behind obviously Baron, Stephen, and lately Monta). Barnes was clutch last year but has hit some kind of wall, he needs to find a way around it. Harrington is on and off, on some days he is our most clutch guy, on others our least. No time for the rest, game's back on!
WOW
Ellis is turning into an all-star type player, way to come up big on national tv!!
what?
by FiddyDuBs on Feb 13, 2008 8:28 PM PST reply actions
First team to 5 stops wins it....
ITS THE SAME PLAY EVERY TIME!
BARON'S BACK!!!
Baron scares me EVERYTIME
Meanwhile,and 1 by Baron.

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
I am actually
BARON
by FiddyDuBs on Feb 13, 2008 8:30 PM PST reply actions
new orleans got robbed
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 13, 2008 8:31 PM PST reply actions
aargh
This one's for you Sleepy...

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
You mean
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 13, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
nash wearing..
by jayfeezy on Feb 13, 2008 8:33 PM PST reply actions
PIetrus
by FiddyDuBs on Feb 13, 2008 8:34 PM PST reply actions
Pietrus
let's see how
now we
Amare misses 3 ft's this game

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
Jackson..
by FiddyDuBs on Feb 13, 2008 8:35 PM PST reply actions
Or Monta

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Feb 13, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Get the ball to only
I don't trust Baron's FTs right now.
Ellis is the second option, he hasn't been shooting great FTs either.
Barnes on the inbound.
A solid FT shooter as last player
dubs
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 13, 2008 8:36 PM PST reply actions
Can anyone explain
Oh god,
MONTA
by FiddyDuBs on Feb 13, 2008 8:37 PM PST reply actions
We gotta stop running that play...
man
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 13, 2008 8:38 PM PST reply actions
Missed
by PhilSmith on Feb 13, 2008 8:39 PM PST reply actions
whooooo damn
WOOOOOOOOOOO!
did anyone see monta try to hug BD
damn hella errors!
Playoff atmosphere....
biedrins's screen
by Bucky on Feb 13, 2008 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That was too close..
by FiddyDuBs on Feb 13, 2008 8:41 PM PST reply actions
Wow
baron
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 13, 2008 8:42 PM PST reply actions
LOL
No Jinx
But with the win, the Warriors move up to #7.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
WARRIORSSSSSS
my heart is pounding
FINALLY BD GOES OFF
and
it was probably just bad timing
by the evil monkey on Feb 13, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
that
your pessimism is working!
SICK SICK SICK
Entertaining as hell.
Back and forth.
I love to hate nailbiters!
We keep winning the close ones. Thats the sign.
I love how the webber experiment got put on hold, till the donut around his chin goes away!
by GreenLightJerky on Feb 13, 2008 8:51 PM PST reply actions
suns/dubs, always a classic
who wouldn't love the nba if all the games were played at that tempo? damn, the replay of the game is at 12. I'll try to stay up for the first half at least.
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monta and baron
lets
Pietrus: 1 point
3 rebounds
0-1 shooting
1 of 2 free throws
2 steals
2 turn overs
1 block
and 6 FRIGGIN PERSONAL FOULS. As much as Mikey can make blocks that looks nice he has the ability to still hurt us even when it looks like hes helping.
Lets look at Buke... 3 of 3 shooting and 2 rebounds... 0 fouls... I HEART BUKE!
DUBS:
.5 games ahead of missing the playoffs.
The Western Conference 07/08 is just ... insane.
i bet
Kelenna >> Pietrus
by calbears on Feb 13, 2008 9:03 PM PST reply actions
On a side note....
Biedrins also needs to get much more PT especially over Pietrus. This game is in the bag if he plays more.
by calbears on Feb 13, 2008 9:10 PM PST reply actions
Monta MIP two years in a row!
i agree!
by Bucky on Feb 13, 2008 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
pietrus
just thank goodness that webber is on the bench in street clothes. maybe nellie's genius only brought in cwebb to motivate al to try harder lol.
by Bucky on Feb 13, 2008 9:19 PM PST reply actions
you're not the only one
PIETRUS PLAY
buke
height and shotblocking
by Bucky on Feb 14, 2008 7:31 AM PST up reply actions
I'm with you (and Nellie) I'll take Pietrus
And thank god Nellie doesn't listen to Bob "I never played the game" Fitzgerald and Jim "I think Croshere should play 30 minutes a game" Barnett and the dodos on this board who go out of their way to blame everything on our 9th man in the rotation.
I'm saying he's great, but this is like a weird vendetta or something.
I'll agree with you
He has the talent to be a much better player. He clearly under-achieves.
A lot of the Dubs give silly ticky-tac fouls so can't pin that on Pietrus alone. I'll take what he can give us, and rely on Nelson to get him outta there when he goes really brain-dead in games.
By comparison, look at Monta's steady improvement. Its visible on the court. You don't see that improvement trajectory with Pietrus, is all I'm saying.
Unfair comparison
I pray i never have to use a gun again.
Pietrus
pietrus one block????
by goldenberto on Feb 13, 2008 9:34 PM PST reply actions
and that was the end of Barbosa's driving
that's because
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Anyone
How funny was it
so
postgame interview:
(Baron with Monta off screen) Baron saying that he thought the shot by Barbosa would go in because wide open and that's why he was mad at Monta for not switching. Baron pushes Monta, who is still offscreen, and it looks like he pushes back. They're both laughing.
Monta talks about the game and stuff. He then blames Baron for leaving Barbosa wide open. It went something like that.
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Easy
nah i mean like
amare 29pts 13rbs
hill 26pts 15rbs
only baron got a 20+ 10+ stat. monta had another montazing floor game. Warrior wonder fa sho
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even though
anyone know
go Dubs!!!
by goldentouch on Feb 13, 2008 10:10 PM PST reply actions
wow
PIETRUS =[
jeez...
whatever, i give up!
hmm
Pietrus
I'll concede that on the whole he's not very smart, but he's a great defender and really just doesn't get the calls most of the time. I've always said that he's so athletic that he should be slashing and cutting, but it's stuck in his head to just hang around the perimeter and jack 3's.
I pray i never have to use a gun again.
Pietrus
But I think we should trade him, because he obviously won't be playing his natural position here anytime soon.
pietrus
by goldentouch on Feb 13, 2008 11:45 PM PST reply actions
CORRECT PREDITION
by MontaAND1 on Feb 13, 2008 11:48 PM PST reply actions
hey predict
Combined: 229
Monta & BD: 59
by illmaticwarrior on Wed Feb 13, 2008 at 08:39:16 PM EDT
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illmatic was the closest i could see.
i may be wrong
Croshere
by Bucky on Feb 14, 2008 7:33 AM PST reply actions

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