OPEN THREAD: Game 56 - Warriors vs Sonics
Originally Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 12:08:02 PM PDT

Warriors (W-L): 33-22
Sonics (W-L): 15-40
Time: 7:30pm PST
TV: FSN Bay Area
Radio: KNBR 680
You never know what you'll get with this team. One night they're knocking off the best team in the league, the next night they're getting blown out by a team struggling to make the playoffs in the East. They seem to bring it against the top teams but take nights off against the bad teams.
In any other year, being 11 games over .500 would easily put the Warriors in the playoffs and taking a night off wouldn't hurt that much - plus I'd be ecstatic and not fearful of missing the playoffs. Losing a game to the Hawks wouldn't generate as much criticism and worry. But this year is different. Every single game counts when 9 excellent teams battle for 8 spots. Even though Houston might be done with Yao out for the season, you can't take anything for granted. I wouldn't guarantee a Warriors playoff berth because Portland could roll off another 13 in a row or TMac steps his game up to MVP levels. Basically, any game the Warriors lose that they should have won will be magnified 100x if they miss the playoffs by 1 game.
Tonight is one of those nights in which the Warriors play a bad team - a team they should easily beat even without 2 starters - Jax and Beans. Unfortunately, with the Warriors, you never know if they'll show up or not. It would be nice to wash the nasty taste of the Hawks loss out of my mouth.
A look at the Sonics after the jump.
Long gone are the days of Gary Payton throwing alley-oops to Shawn Kemp. But after thinking about the two of them, I went a did a little YouTube search on the old Shawn Kemp. Check it out. The Warriors make some cameo appearances - good `ol Chris Gatling and Alton Lister.
Enough of the funky flashback, this current Sonics team stinks. They have the #2 pick, Kevin Durant, and a bunch of role players. Heck even KDeezy's not living up to the hype. Earl Watson is a decent PG but better suited for a backup position. Nick Collison is solid. Jeff Green is underachieving. They traded away their best shooter, Wally Sxsdfweoixcxcvjlkerbiak, and best big man, Kurt Thomas. How could this team possibly win?
If the Warriors could just show up with a high energy level every night, I wouldn't need to worry about this game. The only reason for me to even watch would be to see Kevin Durant and the silky smooth jumper he's got. Well it seems like the Warriors only win by the narrowest of margins. Their last few wins were decided on the last shot, Boston, Phoenix, Washington, and Sacramento. I don't expect tomorrow to be any different, but one day it's going to come back to haunt them. They can't keep just barely winning because one game, that last second 3 by the other team is going to go in or that last second shot by the Warriors isn't going to go in.
Things I'd like to see
- Let Brandan Wright play. I was impressed with what he did on Friday against the Hawks. He was active and showed he's got some talent. He handled the rock in the open floor, knocked down a 13 foot jumper, and changed plenty of shots on defense. He showed he can even score around the basket a little bit. He rebounded well and when he couldn't secure the rebound was able to tip the ball to his teammates. Nellie needs to let the kid develop especially with Beans on the sidelines. Right now, Braces is the best option off the bench - athletic, active, nonstop motor, and fun to watch. If he can earn a spot in the rotation now, it will help out later in the year when Andris returns.
- 48 minutes of Warriors basketball. Actually I'll settle for just 40. The Warriors never seem to be able to put together a complete game. It killed them against the Hawks. If the rest of the guys can match the intensity that Baron and Monta bring to the floor, we'll be okay. Baron and Monta will feed off that extra energy.
Thing I don't want to see
- Chris Webber starting. It's like he's playing with a 50 pound weight vest. Start Harrington at C, Pietrus at the 4, and Kaz at the 3. In 5 of the 6 games that CWebb has started, the Warriors have been losing by the time he left the game. The Warriors haven't always started well, but in the previous 7 games before Webber, they led after the first quarter 4 times and trailed 3 times. If he starts tonight and the first quarter woes continue against the horrible Sonics, it's time for a change. He's improving, but let him play into shape in practice and against the opponent's 2nd team. It's a simple and quick analysis, but I just don't see Webber helping this team get out of the gate quickly, in fact I'd argue that he's making our 1st quarter struggles even worse. Let Webber come off the bench and face the 2nd team - he's a veteran, he'll do just fine.
- The matador defense the Warriors are playing is getting ridiculous. Move your feet. Don't bite on pump fakes. Box out. Know where your man is at all times. Don't take unnecessary gambles. Don't double team unless it's necessary and in this game, I don't see when it will ever be necessary. The team and individual defense was atrocious against the Hawks - time to fix that against the Sonics.
Here's to hoping that the Warriors do to the Sonics what they did to the Bobcats a few weeks ago and just blow them out of the Oracle. Of course, that would be asking just too much.
Predictions
- Warriors win by 3
- Monta scores 35
- Nick Collison gets the nightly random Warrior Killer award
- Brandan Wright gets some more time and continues to impress
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isnt jax
Not sure
by Fantasy Junkie on Feb 26, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
warriors history
Wright Starting
by Fantasy Junkie on Feb 26, 2008 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
He said he is going..
He also said he may need to put his foot in a boot to heal faster in the off season.
by GreenLightJerky on Feb 26, 2008 12:51 PM PST reply actions
Sonics
Hopefully we will destroy them tonight!
F**K REFS!!!
here is the link
Yikes,..
We need a solid effort tonight.
by GreenLightJerky on Feb 26, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
geebus...
Great...
by WilliamVanLandingham on Feb 26, 2008 3:05 PM PST reply actions
no more playing down
asdf
and what can be better in this case then (not just shorthanded but even shortonehanded i'd say) Sonics
i don't want some +3 this time
-give me some bloody heads on spears!
FTW!
build a team & destroy the roof
Easy or a One Posession Win?
followed by:
To me, a prediction of a win by 3 (one posession) is not an easy win.
What's nice (and unsettling at the same time) is that with the Warriors, you don't know what to expect each night. You just have to watch the game. And often enough, there is something fun happening along the way.
<i>should</i> be an easy win

then we will fight in the shade.
jax is playing
dont start webber though!
Starting Lineup:
Davis
Ellis
Jackson
Wright
and Harrington at C
no
Davis
Ellis
Belinelli
Wright
Al
We shouldn't use Jackson unless we absolutely need to. I don't want him aggravating that injury.
hey people
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Feb 26, 2008 5:18 PM PST reply actions
you should bet on the Sonics then
This will be a barometer
Here's me hoping that during the stretch run we can get back to playing defense at a high level.
i dont know where else to put this
im watching the gamecenter on espn and the score is an embarrassing 23 (wizards) to 51. well the scoreboard didnt update for a while and i realized eventually that it is halftime.
23 points in a half?! is that some type of record or at least close to one? it looks like houston is going to win this one but im just glad that the warriors even if they are losing still arent this boring to watch.
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 6:40 PM PST reply actions
San Antonio
It's pretty tough to be entertaining AND winning, but the Warriors are pulling it off with their smallball
Saw this
"3. Mickael Pietrus, Warriors: No one is sure why the Warriors don't play Pietrus more. He's one of the more athletic defenders in the league and a solid 3-point shooter. A good team will pick him up and try to use him in a Bruce Bowen-type role"
Playoffs!!??
Bruce Bowen?
by IQofaWarrior on Feb 26, 2008 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
Utah loses
asdf
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 26, 2008 7:35 PM PST reply actions
wow
I just watched the Stevenson play today so now
lol
Looking forward to seeing Wright start, it's his 2nd start isn't it?
art by jnazaire 07
Houston...
HEY TONY.PSD.......
"Its Time For Some Action"
OakFoSho
by Sneaky275 on Feb 26, 2008 7:46 PM PST reply actions
uh
Welcome to Oracle.
by tadams1080 on Feb 26, 2008 7:46 PM PST reply actions
Seriously, we don't even try
OOooooh noes
down 9
I hope your just being pessimistic
LOL
stream
If you click on the relevant link it'll give you a url to paste into a media player. That forum has served me well to watch the Ws from the midwest!
Wright Stuff
Welcome to Oracle.
by tadams1080 on Feb 26, 2008 7:51 PM PST reply actions
Brandan
i want to see AB with BW on court both soon
build a team & destroy the roof
I thought that
in fairness
in continuing with the pattern
DAMN
remember the 1st kings game?
"To my dear brother, Noompsy."
by Tim N Chris Burger on Feb 26, 2008 8:01 PM PST reply actions
I know the Warriors probably consider it
Durant...
sucks to be francisco elson
still think missing beans doesn't hurt?
way to go nelson
lol
we all know
okay
Can the Warriors hire someone to work exclusively with Ellis to teach him how to defend? On that Durant dunk, Ellis was guessing which way Durant would go and guessed wrong. He is holding the defense back right now, as much as I love him.
Durant doesn't look impressive at all, how many jumpshots has he made? the Warriors just aren't defending, I could score a lot of points on easy layups and dunks (if I was tall enough) too.
geez
PIETRUS!!!
"We're educated in the Bay Area."-- My momma's other Big Daddy: Baron Davis
wtf?
Very good point Barnett
What do you expect?
But at the same time
My eyes deceive me
why can't mp2 play like this more often?
"To my dear brother, Noompsy."
by Tim N Chris Burger on Feb 26, 2008 8:16 PM PST reply actions
WRIGHT
and finished on the other end by someone!!!
bwright
someone on the warriors should point out
by the evil monkey on Feb 26, 2008 8:19 PM PST reply actions
Pietrus
wow
I need a smoke
"We're educated in the Bay Area."-- My momma's other Big Daddy: Baron Davis
eeh
Jackson
he's inactive.
by the evil monkey on Feb 26, 2008 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
nice of nellie
by the evil monkey on Feb 26, 2008 8:29 PM PST reply actions
This IS THE SAME TEAM THAT BEAT THE CELTS
"To my dear brother, Noompsy."
by Tim N Chris Burger on Feb 26, 2008 8:29 PM PST reply actions
I feel you
a) drive to the rim every time (who's going to stop the penetration, Ridnour?) Why live on the perimeter when they could easily get high percentage layups?
b) play some kind of defense. Not perfect defense, but not 30 out of 32 points in the paint in the first quarter defense either.
I would say that it's easier said than done, but if the Warriors can do it some of the time, why can't they do it all of the time?
I think everyone pretty much played...

Go Warriors!
by babyguess on Feb 26, 2008 8:30 PM PST reply actions
Everyone please knock on wood

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
so lets see
i never
ummmm
-Wright despite starting getting sporadic minutes
-Webber still looks 65 yrs old.
-Pietrus after 2 nice drives, fouls Collison for an and one (customary bonehead play)
-Barnes needs a shooting drill where he lands exactly at the spot he took off from.
-CJ Watson welcome back to the NBA
-Durant is long
-I hope to see Belinelli on the floor tonight
-I love Tuna Melt sandwiches
BTW down 4.
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 8:41 PM PST reply actions
Wow
So if we sign Barry
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 8:43 PM PST reply actions
MP
ok
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe not,
anyone
i thought
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
exploiting weaknesses to the extreme
"To my dear brother, Noompsy."
by Tim N Chris Burger on Feb 26, 2008 8:46 PM PST reply actions
Brandan
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 8:52 PM PST reply actions
monta
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 8:53 PM PST reply actions
offensive
The crowd are the Oracle
"We're educated in the Bay Area."-- My momma's other Big Daddy: Baron Davis
now
o damn sonics did that too...lol
Is it just me or
Croshere...
OMG
why put pietrus in over wright???
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:03 PM PST reply actions
Not his fault
ok
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
tony psd
AL MATT and MICKAEL?
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 9:05 PM PST reply actions
Cmon man...
by calbears on Feb 26, 2008 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not biased.. .
"We're educated in the Bay Area."-- My momma's other Big Daddy: Baron Davis
pietrus to take free throws?
refs
telling u
jeez
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 9:10 PM PST reply actions
i hate don nelson!
Nice to see Donyell Marshall
"We're educated in the Bay Area."-- My momma's other Big Daddy: Baron Davis
"Montay in a foot race...

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
haha
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:16 PM PST reply actions
no wonder
Barnett
how about
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 9:19 PM PST reply actions
I don't understand
any other player would have simply
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly though...
wrong
In Pietrus' position even a Junior High player could have taken taht one...
He just lost the handle when dribbling after he had position.
by calbears on Feb 26, 2008 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
barnett
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Barnett hates Pietrus
Oppossing coaches think pretty highly of him. As does Nelson. Dude knocks the ball loose, ball goes out of bounds he flies onto the seats to get it and everyone hates on him. Haters go home.
well
Dude knocks the ball away
I remember when Warrior fans used to boo Tim Hardaway because they said he shot too much. Called him "Shootaway." Hardaway then bad mouthed the no-nothing hater Warrior fans. Can;lt blame him. You know who you are.
Warrior fans always hated on the wrong guys. Because they listened to that drunkard, Jim Barnett.
Nellie likes Peotrus, Van Gundy likes Pietrus, Riley likes Pietris but some 12 year old with a keyboard in theor mothers' house thinks he;s a bonehead. Whatever.
hmm
he wouldn't have to make up for his boneheaded move if he just kept his eyes on the ball. I know you're trying to imply that I'm 12 years old haha.
anyways, I never crucified him for that play. I would have if he missed that 3 when we were supposed to run out the clock. It was cro got the offensive rebound which was a missed 3 by pietrus.
a thought.....
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 9:20 PM PST reply actions
nelli
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:23 PM PST reply actions
damn
Pietrus
asdf
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 26, 2008 9:24 PM PST reply actions
lol
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
man
screw pietrus
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:25 PM PST reply actions
i know
by the evil monkey on Feb 26, 2008 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
asdf
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 26, 2008 9:26 PM PST reply actions
It hurts
barnes
al kills the momentum again
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:27 PM PST reply actions
lol
asdf
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 26, 2008 9:28 PM PST reply actions
well crosh isnt playing is he?
i'm just amazed by how quickly haters jump on our SLUMPING players.
you try playing at that level.
not sure but
sorry
letters aren't the greatest at giving off emotions.
hmm
i don't know.
asdf
by NotoriousCruz on Feb 26, 2008 9:32 PM PST reply actions
damn warriors is turning R now....
by warriorfan4life on Feb 26, 2008 9:33 PM PST reply actions
theres
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:34 PM PST reply actions
hah
I remember how that spurred a little debate over here after he said he'd take Yao.
Let's go dubs...finish them off.
haha jackson just gorwled
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:38 PM PST reply actions
LOL
since he pointed to the shot clock, it
by the evil monkey on Feb 26, 2008 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
oooo pietrus
that was
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:41 PM PST reply actions
even tho
"To my dear brother, Noompsy."
by Tim N Chris Burger on Feb 26, 2008 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
Why is Fitzgerald counting this one?
That better not jinx us
fitz
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 9:42 PM PST reply actions
asd
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
gosh darn
Maybe I'm worried for no reason
sonics
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 9:46 PM PST reply actions
stupid ridnour
by twelve years on Feb 26, 2008 9:47 PM PST reply actions
anyone
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Feb 26, 2008 9:52 PM PST reply actions
Long Interview
by calbears on Feb 26, 2008 9:52 PM PST reply actions
well cro doesn't do it that often
"To my dear brother, Noompsy."
by Tim N Chris Burger on Feb 26, 2008 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
he also
cro for WW! all 5 of his rebounds were offensive
Nelson
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on Feb 26, 2008 10:01 PM PST reply actions
is this a jumpstart to cro
by sing sing supernote on Feb 26, 2008 10:07 PM PST reply actions
Hopefully
by IQofaWarrior on Feb 26, 2008 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Cro.
by FiddyDuBs on Feb 26, 2008 10:25 PM PST reply actions
Does
cause
ESPN TOP 10

"S.C. gooooo hooooome!!!"
by scottiepimppen on Feb 26, 2008 11:31 PM PST reply actions
First Warriors game in like 14 Years!
by OH mY JOSH415 on Feb 27, 2008 12:11 AM PST reply actions

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