Short term, I think he becomes an irrelevance. If you trade for Artest you're essentially asking either him or Jackson to play to 4 permanently, or you're asking Jackson or Ellis to move to the bench, a move that could well disrupt their games (especially as Monta was in his godlike form from February). Artest also doesn't improve our rebounding that much, as he pulls just 5.3 for his career, extremely similar to what we're getting out of Al Harrington right now. He is certainly a better defender than Harrington, but the nature of the likely starting lineup would be pushing either Jack or Artest to guard a PF full-time, which I doubt very much either of them can do. Perhaps Artest could help out against the sorts of undersized PFs who've torched us, but I'm honestly more worried about guys like Boozer, Duncan, Gasol and so forth, guys that are too damn big for Artest.

Also, you're talking about asking a guy do play an unnatural position who has, even in the most positive interpretations of his actions, a suspect track record as far as being a team player goes. I read the articles and interviews where he gave his side of the Detroit brawl incident, and yes, he was provoked, and obviously so. But there's still a big disconnect between the provocation and the response.

Admittedly tangentially as well, the specific interview with Artest that I read (would like to find it again), he makes specific point of expressing displeasure that the guy who provoked him was some "white guy." It sounds trite to say, but if I made a similar remark about being punked by "some black guy," I'd be labeled a racist. Believe me, I have no delusions regarding the societal factors that make that the case, nor would it ever come up, because I don't process my views on a racial level, and I'd like to hope the people I'm rooting for don't view me as unworthy because I'm white.

but you never know with this team.. sometimes I think we're exactly like the Nuggets.. we play no defense and we play down to our opponent. Them losing their huge lead and losing to bucks is like us losing our huge lead and losing to the bobcats...

their fans also complain about a lack of urgency, heart, will to play defense etc etc.

jackson is hot 11 pts.

no let-up...

we might even get to see marco tonight. or kosta.

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pretty funny i have to admit...

year one: 31%

http://www.nba.com/features/dance08_west2_uta_v_gsw.html?bid=NBADANCE08_hp

i hate the jazz, we can't beat them why not beat their dance team? lol